Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots

[editor]

Bloody hell. Met a long time friend yesterday and he's gone so far down the rabbit hole I'm not sure where to start. And he's a well educated bloke too.

According to him: coronavirus ceased to exist months ago. Everyone now dying from it is actually dying from the vaccine (he got very shirty when I asked about people dying who hadn't been vaccinated). The Indian variant doesn't exist. Everyone is crooked and in the pay of unspecified sources/Big Pharma to continue the deception. Etc etc etc. Depressing as fuck.

 

[Supine]

Thank you for the information about COVID death reporting metholodgy. I am not really doubting the methodology myself but its good to know that the definitions are agreed and robust. What i am looking at I suppose is comparing this methodology with the misuse of the 'Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System' where it is stressed that "reports do not imply causality and that any event could have happened by coincidence."

Why is one correlating event (the COVID deaths) supposed to be a good indication (proxy) of causality while the other is not (the 4,863 deaths close in time to a Vaccine being administered).

What is a snappy way of explaining this?

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

Adverse events include anything that happens post vaccination. Including being run over. That is why there is no causality.

 

[toblerone3]

Adverse events include anything that happens post vaccination. Including being run over. That is why there is no causality.

I think those types of things are pre-screened out of the adverse events definition.

VAERS - FAQs

vaers.hhs.gov

https://vaers.hhs.gov/docs/VAERS_Table_of_Reportable_Events_Following_Vaccination.pdf

 

[krtek a houby]

Bloody hell. Met a long time friend yesterday and he's gone so far down the rabbit hole I'm not sure where to start. And he's a well educated bloke too.

According to him: coronavirus ceased to exist months ago. Everyone now dying from it is actually dying from the vaccine (he got very shirty when I asked about people dying who hadn't been vaccinated). The Indian variant doesn't exist. Everyone is crooked and in the pay of unspecified sources/Big Pharma to continue the deception. Etc etc etc. Depressing as fuck.

Another casualty of the covid years. Sadly there's going to be more and more. Feels like if/when things get back to some kind of normal, there will be many suffering from some kind of PTSD or delusion. Overall, it can't be good for anyone's mental health.

 

[kalidarkone]

So mdk1's dad who is 56 with asthma and rheumatoid arthritis- refused to get vaccinated....has tested positive for covid.....he also has a history of being mentally unwell at times regarding health....convinced he has lesions up his nose and in his head...prob why he didn't get vaccinated...but it was impossible for him to win in either situation....Best I can hope is that he doesn't get unwell physically or mentally.

For a while mdk1 was resistant about getting vaccinated due to his stupid dad chatting shit....but realised....and he is moving back in with me and I said NOT unless he gets vaccinated. So relieved he has come round.
#bloodybristolhippies

 

[ElizabethofYork]

I hope he's ok, kalidarkone

 

[editor]

So I know a 50 year old woman who runs a busy shop with young staff. She refused to have a vaccine because INTERNET and she's hardly ever worn a mask because INTERNET and now she's tested positive and her unvaccinated staff are shitting themselves because of the risk that she's put them in.

 

[kalidarkone]

So I know a 50 year old woman who runs a busy shop with young staff. She refused to have a vaccine because INTERNET and she's hardly ever worn a mask because INTERNET and now she's tested positive and her unvaccinated staff are shitting themselves because of the risk that she's put them in.

FFS!

 

[cupid_stunt]

So I know a 50 year old woman who runs a busy shop with young staff. She refused to have a vaccine because INTERNET and she's hardly ever worn a mask because INTERNET and now she's tested positive and her unvaccinated staff are shitting themselves because of the risk that she's put them in.

I feel sorry for the staff, and customers, but frankly fuck her, hope she has it bad.

 

[kalidarkone]

I've spent the morning on the phone trying to persuade my son to:
1) Do a lateral flow test- there are plenty in the house.
2) Book a PCR test
3)Book a vaccine

He is not anti it but very tired from work....I've just ripped him a new one and said that given he had contact with his dad a week ago who is now positive.....and works in a small kitchen with other unvaccinated younger people and a couple of older people- one who is in a higher risk category due to age and ethnicity - that he needs to do this to protect, himself his colleagues, his workplace.

That if he wants to be able to get on with his life then this has to be managed and it is the new normal- get fucking used to it!

Wish I was there to kick his backside and ferry him around to get it done! But he is 27 ffs!

 

[klang]

I feel sorry for the staff, and customers, but frankly fuck her, hope she has it bad.

as much as I'd like to think 'fuck em', they are still potential spreaders, esp when from a loon background.

 

[existentialist]

as much as I'd like to think 'fuck em', they are still potential spreaders, esp when from a loon background.

Yeah, well, let's just hope they get to bear the consequences of their own actions, as well as inflicting them on other people

 

[Badgers]

I feel sorry for the staff, and customers, but frankly fuck her, hope she has it bad.

Hopefully dies

 

[two sheds]

Hopefully dies

from a public health point of view

 

[Badgers]

from a public health point of view

Ish

 

[kalidarkone]

Mdk1 booked in for first jab on Tuesday

 

[spitfire]

Not UK but Dolores Cahill making an absolute arse of herself here at a by election count in Dublin.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Not UK but Dolores Cahill making an absolute arse of herself here at a by election count in Dublin.

She's a proper loon, but that guard's response cracked me up.

 

[rekil]

Who is the american loon with her.

 

[spitfire]

She gets a name check on the other video. I missed it though. Tagged you in.

 

[rekil]

She gets a name check on the other video. I missed it though.

Yeah I found it. Alisa Keane.

 

[Orang Utan]

She's a proper loon, but that guard's response cracked me up.

he’s a cop. she was saying he was a security guard pretending to be a cop if i heard right

 

[spitfire]

he’s a cop. she was saying he was a security guard pretending to be a cop if i heard right

Gardai are very often called guards in Ireland. I think she was making some loon point about them not being legitimate police because constitution or something.

 

[cupid_stunt]

he’s a cop. she was saying he was a security guard pretending to be a cop if i heard right

I know he's cop, the Gardai were always referred to as guards, when I lived in Ireland, the habit sticks.

 

[rekil]

he’s a cop. she was saying he was a security guard pretending to be a cop if i heard right

She tries to arrest him. Normals get battered for an awful lot less.

Spoiler

Sorry for loon channel link. Ugh.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Oh, more of this please.

 

[existentialist]

Not UK but Dolores Cahill making an absolute arse of herself here at a by election count in Dublin.

Christ, the looks of smug self-satisfaction on those faces

 

[cupid_stunt]

Well, she didn't come last...

But, 12th with just 169 votes is still bloody funny.

 

[krtek a houby]

Not UK but Dolores Cahill making an absolute arse of herself here at a by election count in Dublin.

This Dolores definitely don't care for.

 

[Elpenor]

Surely, if she’s got 6 times more followers than the president and the Taoiseach, she should be running the country, or certainly be exempt from any laws she chooses.

Must try that when I get on the bus next - “I’ve got more followers than you driver so I don’t need to buy a ticket”