Describe your politics!

[Kaka Tim]

libertarian socialist/anarchist I spose.

Crap poll.

needs more options for r/wingers too - neo-liberal, one nation tory, r-wing libertarian etc.

 

[smokedout]

It's my view, comrade, that chromaticism is something that can be explored as superstructure to the Aeolian-Dorian base.

no, the Aeolian-Dorian hegemony must be broken, chromaticism is not the super-structure, it is, without the false dichotomy of Aeolian-Dorianism or even phrygian-lydian influences, the fundamental building block of struggle

i look forward to the day when semi-tone can stand with semi-tone without classical impositions and modal so-called harmony

 

[smokedout]

furthermore, whilst i believe it was dear old uncle jo himself who warned of the abandonment of the fixed interval scale, i suggest a look to the Eastern tradition of tonal anarchy and only then can we truly reflect and address the diversity of the global proletarian

noted modern thinkers including yngwie malmsteen and h.marvin et al have long been suggesting this position

 

[peterkro]

noted modern thinkers including yngwie malmsteen and h.marvin et al have long been suggesting this position

H.Marvin has long been exposed as a revisionist although his early work as Brian Robson Rankin is still regarded as seminal.

 

[smokedout]

H.Marvin has long been exposed as a revisionist although his early work as Brian Robson Rankin is still regarded as seminal.

dont get me wrong, marvin is reactionary if influential

but his work with c.richard et al exposed his tendency towards dissonance and clearly show an understanding of radicalism

although i can only only assume that you edge towards a claptonite strategy

sadly history has shown us exactly where that can lead

 

[danny la rouge]

no, the Aeolian-Dorian hegemony must be broken, chromaticism is not the super-structure, it is, without the false dichotomy of Aeolian-Dorianism or even phrygian-lydian influences, the fundamental building block of struggle

i look forward to the day when semi-tone can stand with semi-tone without classical impositions and modal so-called harmony

While I think this idea of so-called "outside" playing was a refreshing change in the 60s, bolstered by Marscuse, Ayler, et al, (c/f C. Taylor, O. Coleman, Frank Kofsky, LeRoi Jones), most of those theorists who lived beyond this revolution soon reverted to quasi modality, if only in the implied structures. A post modern understanding of harmony moves beyond this dead end of deconstruction, and into a structural phase that sees diatonism as a branch of the tree rather than misunderstanding it as the tree itself.

 

[moon23]

Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.87

 

[The Black Hand]

I am fond of Dave Douglass's articulation of Anarcho Marxism - some prefer Anarchoi Marxism though

For myself, there are elements of Socialist Humanism or Marxist Humanism, and autonomism I appreciate. I have long considered Left Anarchism to be a good title, or in the recent edition of Mayday magazine, issue 4, an articulation of RED Anarchism
http://mayday-magazine.vpweb.co.uk/

On the Mayday facebook page http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?v=info&ref=ts&gid=40550263829
it says this too;

"Loyal to the New Left, parts of anarchism, humanist Marxism and autonomism; but also seeking to develop new creative and innovative political synthesis for the 21st century. It is time for @ New Left."

 

[Blagsta]

Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.87

So what you doing in the Lib Dems?

 

[butchersapron]

Hardcore praxis?

 

[smokedout]

While I think this idea of so-called "outside" playing was a refreshing change in the 60s, bolstered by Marscuse, Ayler, et al, (c/f C. Taylor, O. Coleman, Frank Kofsky, LeRoi Jones), most of those theorists who lived beyond this revolution soon reverted to quasi modality, if only in the implied structures. A post modern understanding of harmony moves beyond this dead end of deconstruction, and into a structural phase that sees diatonism as a branch of the tree rather than misunderstanding it as the tree itself.

you make an interesting point, however it must be noted that the tonal quality only exists when placed in context with other degrees of chromaticism and furthermore harmonic sub-tones reveal that the ionian model is not only a branch of the tree but an inherent property of the tone itself

further study reveals reveals however that this applies to all modalities and even the entirity of chromaticism and suggest we should abandon outdated notions of modality and even tonality

despite the manchester traditionalists dogged persistance in the ionion-aeolian approach in the 90s many more radical thinkers (j. wink, r. size, p. oakenfold et al) suggests that both tonailty and chromaticism are bunk and it is frequency which needs to be urgently addressed - although admittedly this is rarely overtly expressed

 

[Rod Sleeves]

libertarian socialist/anarchist I spose.

Crap poll.

needs more options for r/wingers too - neo-liberal, one nation tory, r-wing libertarian etc.

Well if you can get into the software and edit it so that there are more than twelve options...

Anyway they've got right wing, liberal, and libertarian.

 

[moon23]

So what you doing in the Lib Dems?

Trying to faciliate democratic reform and infulence mainstream public opinon.

 

[Blagsta]

Trying to faciliate democratic reform and infulence mainstream public opinon.

Good luck with that!

 

[moon23]

Hardcore praxis?

Essentially yes, I think you have to work within systems and structures that are likely to deliver some practical achievement. You can't run before you can walk, so what's the point in trying to persuade people they should adopt a radically different life-style when you are still battling to make them give up plastic bags, or not to calling for capital punishment. The mainsteam pubic opinion has a long way to go so that’s where I feel I need to be at.

For years I have advocated a more radically different political solution and I have been met with political ghettoisation, and condemnation from people who are meant to be singing from the same hymn sheet for still not being radical enough.

It’s like the left in this country are consigned to a game of navel-gazing where different egos battle it out over who is the most right on. At 16 I went to a council meeting where other ‘comrades’ held abuse at me for not being the right type of comrade. Frankly after years of it I’m sick and tired and would rather engage with people who actually have a chance of making a difference, rather than those who just want to seem to create a nice little life-style activism niche for themselves that achieves bugger all.

If we can win PR, then there is a chance just maybe of forming some interesting coalitions in the future. Without democratic reform there is not a chance in hell of anything else happening . Meanwhile LD are at least a voice in Parliament that can call Labour & Conservatives to account over illegal wars, the abuse of civil liberties.

 

[butchersapron]

What's that got to do with the lib-dems?

You're in for a big disappointment.

 

[moon23]

Being in for a big disappointment puts me in good company.

 

[moon23]

Good luck with that!

Yea.... thanks. That's after i've stopped ID cards first of course

 

[CUMBRIANDRAGON]

I would have to say Libertarian .Why are not the poll made public?

 

[SpookyFrank]

I would have to say Libertarian .Why are not the poll made public?

So the government can't hunt down everyone who votes 'anarchist' and have them all shot.

 

[Blagsta]

What does libertarian mean in this instance? The traditional definition, i.e. synomous with anarchist, or the modern distorted version, i.e. radical free market capitalist (not actually libertarian at all)?

 

[danny la rouge]

it must be noted that the tonal quality only exists when placed in context with other degrees of chromaticism

I think your point is best answered by comrade Parker when he says "You can play any note over any chord, it just depends on the context". Indeed, to disagree with this is reactionary and the mark of a counter revolutionary bourgoise lacky.

 

[JimPage]

Socialist, with my socialism more influenced by John McLean , the ILP and Red Clydeside rather than dead russians

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Broadly leftwing but my position on the left spectrum varies depending on my mood. On a good day I'm a social democrat, on a bad day a left Maoist.

 

[smokedout]

I think your point is best answered by comrade Parker when he says "You can play any note over any chord, it just depends on the context". Indeed, to disagree with this is reactionary and the mark of a counter revolutionary bourgoise lacky.

chill out dude

its only rock and roll

 

[Rod Sleeves]

What does libertarian mean in this instance? The traditional definition, i.e. synomous with anarchist, or the modern distorted version, i.e. radical free market capitalist (not actually libertarian at all)?

It means whatever the people who voted for it thinks it means.

 

[Blagsta]

It means whatever the people who voted for it thinks it means.

That's not a very useful poll then.

 

[Zachor]

Should have been multi choice as I consider myself to be a libertarian tory with a heavy stripe of social responsibility.

 

[Blagsta]

Should have been multi choice as I consider myself to be a libertarian tory with a heavy stripe of social responsibility.

See? Here's someone using a differing definition of libertarian.

 

[cesare]

Should have been multi choice as I consider myself to be a libertarian tory with a heavy stripe of social responsibility.

You could have opted for most of em at some point?