Silas Loom
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Why not? American originalism is a fucking nightmare.
Practical republican politics
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Why not? American originalism is a fucking nightmare.
A380
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I’m just surprised by your admiration for him that’s all…I mean , I’m much more of a Collins fan boy TBF but each to their own. It’s a bit like the Tay Tay / Katy split innit.
Idris2002
cavalcade of hubris
Even a ceremonial president can have powers, powers that become significant during moments of crisis:
How 'thundering disgrace' led to President resigning
THEY were only three words but they shook the nation, provoked a constitutional crisis and led to the first resignation of a president in office.
www.independent.ie
"Thundering disgrace" was the bowdlerised version of what the Defence Minister said about President O'Dalaigh after the latter referred a special powers bill to the dail to check if it was "repugnant to the constitution". In the end, the court passed the legislation, but not before the president had resigned due to the insult to his office.
DotCommunist
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only if your liberal democracy can ensure the army respects the transition. If even 20% of them go Full Sass over the matter its civil war time. Again.
What would a new British civil war look like? I need a medium-budget Sky drama about this. Robert Carlyle and Suranne Jones play ex-lovers who find themselves on opposite sides of the conflict. He is a former Royal Marines commander who now runs security for the royal household. She is a special adviser to the special minister appointed to oversee the handover. Featuring Sean Bean as an embittered Tory ex-PM out for revenge.
A380
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What, with all decisions being ratified by a simple majority in the case of purely internal matters, but a two thirds majority for external decisions?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
needs room for Jeremy Irons but otherwise I'm sold.
Silas Loom
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I agree that of the forces commanded by the monarch, the army is more of a potential threat than the CofE. Doing something early to break those historic links would be strategically sensible.
A380
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We just need to make sure the transfer of power happens between 1200 hrs on a Friday and 1400 on a Monday then.
Silas Loom
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Fixed.
A380
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I'd watch that. Although the reality could be a bit dull If a rerun of the last time; the Navy would come over for parliament. Bucket of sunshine on Oxford as the Royalist capital and the whole thing's done and dusted by teatime.
Archbish of Canterbury?
A380
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ABoC has got to be Rowan Atkinson for comic relief surely?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Eamon rather than Michael I suppose
moochedit
Mr Mooched It
That's the one!
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
From what I remember, the support for/interest in republicanism in the UK thrived and grew substantially during her years of seclusion in the 1860s.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I knew you were older than Sass.
Silas Loom
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Yes, that’s my point - it thrived, but to no effect. Republican sentiment needs to be channeled towards achievable immediate objectives which can be banked as wins along the way to abolition.
pogofish
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It clearly put the wind-up Westminster to a degree that they tried very very hard to coax her back into public life. If she had held-out a few more years longer, some replacement of the Royal role might have become a very pressing issue.
Idris2002
cavalcade of hubris
Wasn't it Prince Albert's death that turned the tables on that one?
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
I've given it a like but that's not enough. Thanks for reminding me of other possibilities.
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
SpookyFrank
Float like a caterpillar, sting like a tree
Can't afford the photocopying.
8ball
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Medium to high chance, assuming you are talking about the party currently fielding Donald Trump for PUSA..
pogofish
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It was Albert's death that precipitated the crisis. There had been some calls for a Republic before of course but for five years after his death in 1861, Victoria went into virtual total isolation at Balmoral and Osborne, with IIRC only one public appearance of any significance and only occasional public sightings the whole time. Which excercised Parliament considerably because the demands to replace the "absent" Monarch grew louder and stronger and the attempts of persuasion to get her back into public life got increasingly desperate.
It was only when they finally got her back for the State Opening of Parliament in 1866 and her gradual resumption of the role of Monarch in the years after that diminished the calls for her removal/replacement.
I can't help but notice that in that period, neither an abdication in favour of or a regency for her Heir seemed to be an option considered. So having a completely/obviously unsuitable Heir might be a useful contributing factor?
The years after WW1 were also a period when republican feeling was considered a very real threat to the UK in Scotland. One of my father's family went to gaol for his politics/republican sympathies in that period, only to be released in order to satisfy the demand for experienced shipbuilders for the Queen Mary and later Queen Elizabeth Liners....!
8ball
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How come it was him that became synonymous with inadvisably invasive penis jewellery?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
his massive wanger spoiled the line of those tight trousers they wore in the day and the jewellery kept it safely hidden down one side. Thats the apocrypha I heard anyway
8ball
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Puddy_Tat
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i did ask a pro-royalist what the difference was between the british PM and an executive (american style) president if the PM can pretty much do what they like (using various actions of that twat johnson as examples) and they weren't really able to tell me.
Silas Loom
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You would have to been a very optimistic republican a few weeks ago to envisage the British public rejecting all images of the Windsor clan as probable fakes. And yet, here we are. Practical epistemic republicanism.
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