Most people can make money starting from scratch, if they choose to.
If that's what you choose to do, equally fine.
Creating inflation is, to me, a bad idea.
Democracy: crap/not crap
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People can choose to work at dangerous jobs or not.
Utter bull.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh? And why's that then?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yeah, and the moon is made of green cheese.[/QUOTE]
If you can make assertions, so can I.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
and just the right height for you as well! Now, lets see you do basic economics while you have your rusks
You're right -- with the obvious exception of the sick.
Funny how everyone who doesn't subscribe to socialist or anarchist views is a troll.
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Starry Wisdom
Supine
Newt Member
I was quiet enjoying this thread but really find this kind of threatening aggressive language chilling. Argue against capitalism fine, but threats like this shouldn't be acceptable.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
apt username then
but to respond as politely as you have- they will and have killed many many a socialist, commie, labour organiser, envoremntal protester etc etc. Look at what the reaction to a mild mannered social democrat like corbyn is? They called him a threat to national security for advocating some old labourite soc/dem policies. I don't want blood anymore than a sane person does but its increasingly- if it wasn't always- clear that it has to happen. These people are not at home to compromise.
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Starry Wisdom
"behold your future executioners"
Johnny Canuck3
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Do you believe that everyone starts on a level playing field? That all are of equal intelligence, or equal physical capacity? Equal personality traits that are conducive to selling things/getting hired/winning friends and influencing people? Does everyone have equal health, or the same upbringing by their parents that's conducive to maximal personality and emotional growth?
coley
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Are you forvfucking real? Take a dangerous job or fucking starve that was my option many years ago.
mojo pixy
interesting times
What specifically do you mean by freeloader?
Like, is it necessary to be poor, to be one?
What exactly is it that makes someone a loser, in your view?
These terms are pretty loaded, clarification would be useful.
coley
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Tempted to agree, but we've been there to many times, better that a society arrives at a decent compromise and the Nardies of this world are taken around the world, ascrubbing and acleaning as they go,to see the worst excesses of capitalism, however, apols if it's already been mentioned, isn't there a possibility that 'nardie' is a teenager using this place for his GSCE research?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
not even the soviet union claimed to have reached communism. Transitory socialism yes but not claiming to be the real deal- but heading for the real deal.
Johnny Canuck3
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At which point in time was the USSR closest to real communism?
coley
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Any 'real deal' that requires the elimination of the opposition? Thanks but no thanks,stripping them of wealth and influence, aye, love it, but if it involves cellars, concentration camps, and great leaps forwards? Count me out.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
fucked if I know, its not my model but they meant it
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I'm not going to unpack the three cliches there but you are welcome on the side of the non violent revolutionary cadre and yes do come crying to saner heads when they fuck you right up by means gross and subtle. This nonviolence stuff will get you killed, as the title of an interesting book on the american civil rights movements puts it
Johnny Canuck3
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Not sure that the American Civil Rights movement has any equivalence in any way with the planned starvation of the Ukraine in the Thirties.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
not sure why you raise the holodomor? Please expand on where you see an equivalence drawn
Johnny Canuck3
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That's the point. I don't see any equivalence. I don't understand why you introduced the Civil Rights movement into a discussion about some of the violent aspects of the so-called communist states, as mentioned by coley.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
ah right. Well, coley was half arsedly referencin maoist, soviet and nazi practise/ideology (all in the same breath) as the totality of resistance- the end point is this, the end point is that. I mention the civil rights movements, particularly a book on its armed wing, to show that violence is neccesary. I do not want it but it is, and god knows I'd be first to fall.
How did non violent resistance go for african americans? very well in some ways. Steps forward. But they were always backed by the voice of 'you're talking to the acceptable black people here. Theres others behind us that might well...'
I have every respect for non violent resistance. I think they are very brave. But I think they are fools too. Those are not incompatible thinkings
Raheem
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29 December 1922.
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