I'm rubbish with textiles. Art in general I'm rubbish at actually. I have respect for all those keeping the flame of the old school crafts burning though.
Craft club topic of the month - knitting!
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I'm rubbish with textiles. Art in general I'm rubbish at actually. I have respect for all those keeping the flame of the old school crafts burning though.
Me76
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I'm planing ahead and thanks to Biddlybee sending me the link to a sale at
http://www.hejhog-uk.com I am going to be possibly buying yarn for it at the weekend.
I'm planning to knit this
http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/autumn-kimono-style-sweater
But I'm thinking of doing the body in one colour and the sleeves / top in another. Any clues on how I work out how much I need of each?
The comments on ravelry haven't had any action for a long time, and I'm not sure how the forum works yet.
http://www.hejhog-uk.com I am going to be possibly buying yarn for it at the weekend.
I'm planning to knit this
http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/autumn-kimono-style-sweater
But I'm thinking of doing the body in one colour and the sleeves / top in another. Any clues on how I work out how much I need of each?
The comments on ravelry haven't had any action for a long time, and I'm not sure how the forum works yet.
Me76
Not very good lurker
It's been in active since 2012.
I've decided, after looking at other projects, that it does look better with the variegated yarn though so now am looking for stuff I like of that.
RubyToogood
RubyTwobikes
Good raglans! Very neat!
Me76
Not very good lurker
Question again, surprise surprise!
My made up jumper, which was knitted bottom up, I would like more if the body and the sleeves were longer.
Is it possible to make them longer somehow without pulling the whole thing apart? I'm thinking that maybe I could unpick the sewing up (which would be a mission I know), then stick my needle in a row and rip back, then knit until it's the length I want.
Am I delusional?
My made up jumper, which was knitted bottom up, I would like more if the body and the sleeves were longer.
Is it possible to make them longer somehow without pulling the whole thing apart? I'm thinking that maybe I could unpick the sewing up (which would be a mission I know), then stick my needle in a row and rip back, then knit until it's the length I want.
Am I delusional?
I would probably go for the simpler solution of picking up the bottom stitches using circular needles (so no need to unpick side seams) and add a long moss stitch ribbing (it helps that yours does not have a rib but starts with basic stocking stitch). It doesn't really matter which way up your are doing the knitting as long as the connection/pickup is done smoothly. I certainly wouldn't be unpicking seams or doing any sort of ripping back...and anyway, I have always found it impossible to rip back from the start, only from the end (if you see what I mean) but admit to knowing only the most rudimentary techniques.
Same with the sleeves but would use 4/5 double pointed needles) or magic loop on circulars.
Same with the sleeves but would use 4/5 double pointed needles) or magic loop on circulars.
RubyToogood
RubyTwobikes
Personally I would possibly undo the seams, and definitely get rid of the cast on as otherwise that'll create a ridge I would have thought. It's not very orthodox to lengthen a bottom up jumper from the bottom but I have often done it. If you haven't done it before, you could knit up a little sample square to practise unpicking from the bottom.
What you do is put your needle through all the loops in the row you want to unravel back to, making sure you've got the right number of stitches, and then just unpick the row below. You'll need to pull the wool out of the loops on the needle. Then you can just knit down - this new bit of knitting will be half a stitch off from what's above it but it doesn't really matter. It doesn't work if you're doing anything complex like lace or cables though.
One good reason for knitting jumpers in the round is that you can try them on for length as you go. The other thing I often do is start a jumper with a provisional cast on, at the point where I was meant to have finished the ribbing. Then when I've finished I go back and knit down as required.
What you do is put your needle through all the loops in the row you want to unravel back to, making sure you've got the right number of stitches, and then just unpick the row below. You'll need to pull the wool out of the loops on the needle. Then you can just knit down - this new bit of knitting will be half a stitch off from what's above it but it doesn't really matter. It doesn't work if you're doing anything complex like lace or cables though.
One good reason for knitting jumpers in the round is that you can try them on for length as you go. The other thing I often do is start a jumper with a provisional cast on, at the point where I was meant to have finished the ribbing. Then when I've finished I go back and knit down as required.
Me76
Not very good lurker
Can you explain that last bit about provisional cast on Ruby? It sounds like something very useful to know.
RubyToogood
RubyTwobikes
You crochet a chain out of some different wool, and then pick up your stitches for the garment through the back loops of it.
Then when you've done the rest of your knitting and go back to it, you just unravel the chain and there are the stitches waiting to be knitted downwards.
Mostly I just start the ribbing then and make it longer or shorter as required because of the thing of it being half a stitch off. If you're doing a cardigan where you finish by adding a button band, the half a stitch thing might throw it off a tiny bit, but you wouldn't notice if there was a transition to ribbing at that point anyway.
There are videos on Youtube - I had a quick look and it looks as though there might actually be better techniques than that but that's the gist of it.
Mmm, Ruby, I thought there was a better method - my idea is only feasible if you are going to lengthen a garment by adding some different pattern - such as ribbing, changing from st.st because quite right, there is always a visible join but this can be camouflaged to some extent (a colour change for instance).
I have always read 'provisional cast on' and dismissed it as being...provisional (and therefore scary)...must broaden my technique know-how (which has been fixed for about half a century at the novice end of the skill spectrum).
I have always read 'provisional cast on' and dismissed it as being...provisional (and therefore scary)...must broaden my technique know-how (which has been fixed for about half a century at the novice end of the skill spectrum).
Me76
Not very good lurker
Hello all. Another plea for help!
I'm knotting a cardigan and have come to a bit of the pattern that just isn't making sense for me!!
"Pm each side of centre 33 sts for neck. Bind off 5 sts at beg of next 6 rows for shoulder. AT SAME TIME, work to marked centre sts, slip centre 33 sts to a holder for back neck, join second ball of yarn and work to end of row. Working both sides at same time with separate balls of yarn and continuing to work shoulder shaping as established, bind off 3 sts from each neck edge once, 2 sts once, then 1 st once. "
I think I get the first bit
It's when we get to the separate balls of yarn and the shaping and binding off from then I can't get my head round.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
I'm knotting a cardigan and have come to a bit of the pattern that just isn't making sense for me!!
"Pm each side of centre 33 sts for neck. Bind off 5 sts at beg of next 6 rows for shoulder. AT SAME TIME, work to marked centre sts, slip centre 33 sts to a holder for back neck, join second ball of yarn and work to end of row. Working both sides at same time with separate balls of yarn and continuing to work shoulder shaping as established, bind off 3 sts from each neck edge once, 2 sts once, then 1 st once. "
I think I get the first bit
It's when we get to the separate balls of yarn and the shaping and binding off from then I can't get my head round. Any advice greatly appreciated.
RubyToogood
RubyTwobikes
What is this pattern? It's a bizarre one if it makes you do both shoulders at the same time with separate balls. Normally it gives you the shaping for one and then tells you to complete the other side to match, leaving you to work out the reverse shaping. I'd just do that personally. Perhaps it's supposed to make it easier to get them exactly the same.Hello all. Another plea for help!
I'm knotting a cardigan and have come to a bit of the pattern that just isn't making sense for me!!
"Pm each side of centre 33 sts for neck. Bind off 5 sts at beg of next 6 rows for shoulder. AT SAME TIME, work to marked centre sts, slip centre 33 sts to a holder for back neck, join second ball of yarn and work to end of row. Working both sides at same time with separate balls of yarn and continuing to work shoulder shaping as established, bind off 3 sts from each neck edge once, 2 sts once, then 1 st once. "
I think I get the first bit
Any advice greatly appreciated.
moose
like some cat from Japan
I've seen a few like that recently
So you've got 6 rows where lots of stuff is happening - you're decreasing 5 stitches at the start of each row AND binding off neck stitches, whilst the middle 33 stitches that form the back of the neck are held on a stitch holder. Not sure if you're in stocking stitch or garter stitch or whatever, but it goes something like this:
So row 1 of the 6: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the first marker, place 33 stitches on a stitch holder, tie on a new ball of yarn, bind off 3 stitches, knit to end.
Row 2: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 3 stitches from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Row 3: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 2 stitches from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Row 4: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 2 stitches from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Row 5: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 1 stitch from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Row 6: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 1 stitch from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Make sense?
So you've got 6 rows where lots of stuff is happening - you're decreasing 5 stitches at the start of each row AND binding off neck stitches, whilst the middle 33 stitches that form the back of the neck are held on a stitch holder. Not sure if you're in stocking stitch or garter stitch or whatever, but it goes something like this:
So row 1 of the 6: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the first marker, place 33 stitches on a stitch holder, tie on a new ball of yarn, bind off 3 stitches, knit to end.
Row 2: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 3 stitches from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Row 3: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 2 stitches from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Row 4: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 2 stitches from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Row 5: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 1 stitch from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Row 6: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 1 stitch from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Make sense?
Me76
Not very good lurker
Yes!! Thank you very much!I've seen a few like that recently
So you've got 6 rows where lots of stuff is happening - you're decreasing 5 stitches at the start of each row AND binding off neck stitches, whilst the middle 33 stitches that form the back of the neck are held on a stitch holder. Not sure if you're in stocking stitch or garter stitch or whatever, but it goes something like this:
So row 1 of the 6: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the first marker, place 33 stitches on a stitch holder, tie on a new ball of yarn, bind off 3 stitches, knit to end.
Row 2: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 3 stitches from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Row 3: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 2 stitches from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Row 4: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 2 stitches from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Row 5: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 1 stitch from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Row 6: Bind off 5 stitches, knit to the end of the first shoulder stitches, pick up other ball of yarn, bind off 1 stitch from the beginning of the other set of shoulder stitches, knit to end.
Make sense?
Biddlybee
making knots with sticks
Gah, I have to do this with a pair of guantlets which are a present... the ribbing at the wrist is a completely different length on each hand
Me76
Not very good lurker
I've started using a row counter on my phone. You can save different projects on there and I've found it really useful for this cardi.
The back was first and was a ' knit this for 5" and this for 7". Because I still had the back row counter saved, once I started the front I could match the number of rows, so no worrying about measuring differently at different times.
The back was first and was a ' knit this for 5" and this for 7". Because I still had the back row counter saved, once I started the front I could match the number of rows, so no worrying about measuring differently at different times.
Me76
Not very good lurker
I've got to another bit of my cardigan pattern that doesn't make sense.
It's like the bit I asked about before with shaping in two sides, this time for an armhole and the front v. But it's asking me to to put the centre on a holder again and I am certain that will then mean I have a big gap in the middle. But this is a front piece so needs the middle bit to go up to make the shoulder.
I kept reading and reading it but I just don't think it's right. I've googled for any errata but can't find anything.
It's been made quite a bit on ravelry but I'm not sure how that works. Do I message someone who's made it or start a thread? What if no one answers??
Urgh!!!
It's like the bit I asked about before with shaping in two sides, this time for an armhole and the front v. But it's asking me to to put the centre on a holder again and I am certain that will then mean I have a big gap in the middle. But this is a front piece so needs the middle bit to go up to make the shoulder.
I kept reading and reading it but I just don't think it's right. I've googled for any errata but can't find anything.
It's been made quite a bit on ravelry but I'm not sure how that works. Do I message someone who's made it or start a thread? What if no one answers??
Urgh!!!
RubyToogood
RubyTwobikes
You could message someone who's made it if they seem quite techy. But the message boards are really really busy, someone will always answer if you pick the right group to ask in. I don't really post there now but Techniques used to be the group to post in for general tech help, or there may be a specific group for the designer of that pattern. Check that people are currently posting there. And you could earburn (tag) a few people who've made it. The Ravelry earburn format is [Me76](person).
RubyToogood
RubyTwobikes
Oh and in the pattern page there'll be a tab for forum posts about that pattern, have a look and see if there's an active thread about it.
Me76
Not very good lurker
It's this pattern Moose. I'm on the Shape Armhole / Shape Neck section on front left.
Thanks for the tips RubyToogood , will go onto Ravelry tonight if I get a chance.
moose
like some cat from Japan
It's right - when it says 'centre' stitches, it means the ones on the centre front. So the first few on your needle.
You pick them up again later when you're doing the picot edging round the neck. It's what gives you the scoop shape of the neckline.
