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[The39thStep]

Bars are shutting at 9 at night here . I'm going to make some serious lifestyle choices and start drinking at at tea time .

 

[elbows]

Coronavirus: Trump says coronavirus crisis may last all summer

The president urges Americans to avoid gatherings, bars, restaurants, gyms and crowds.

www.bbc.co.uk

If I said Trump has had his wings clipped then that might be misleading, since he will still come out with all sorts of shit. But now he has no choice but to communicate the central public health messages, and watch what he says in terms of predicting short timescales.

Asked how long the emergency will last, Mr Trump told reporters on Monday: "People are talking about July, August, something like that, so it could be right in that period of time where I say, it washes through."

He continued: "They think August, could be July, could be longer than that."

He said he was not considering a national curfew or lockdown, though added: "We may look at certain areas, certain hot spots as they call them."

And an interesting message that is a very different area of focus compared to the UKs approach so far:

White House coronavirus response co-ordinator Dr Deborah Birx, who joined the president, issued an appeal directly to millennials, asking them to limit social contact.

"They are the core people that will stop this virus," she said. "We really want people to be separated."

Dr Birx also warned against socialising even if people feel well.

"We know that there is a large group of infected people who are asymptomatic, who continue to spread the virus," she said.

Millennials are probably being targeted in this message because other messages and factors have probably given them a different sense of risk than is wise. And more likely to have mild symptoms that might not alter their behaviour. And because there is data out there from social contact studies that suggests a particular age range where a lot more close contact socialising happens.

 

[HAL9000]

Coronavirus: 3D printers save hospital with valves

A hospital in Italy is using 3D-printed valves on its ventilators, following a shortage of parts.

www.bbc.co.uk

A 3D-printer company in Italy has designed and printed 100 life-saving respirator valves in 24 hours for a hospital that had run out of them.

The valve connects patients in intensive care to breathing machines.

The hospital, in Brescia, had 250 coronavirus patients in intensive care and the valves are designed to be used for a maximum of eight hours at a time.

The 3D-printed version cost less than €1 (90p) each to produce and the prototype took three hours to design.

I doubt a complete ventilator can be made using 3d printing, but it might help create parts which are currently unvailable.

 

[Cid]

Interesting article on the history of ventilator design...

And this article has a more detailed breakdown of the basic components. It's actually off a revision site for NZ/Oz intensive care exams... The about page says 'It often relies on apocryphal sources, and delivers content which is occasionally more interesting than useful.', which is a good approach.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Apparently the reason that the government is not ordering pubs etc to close is to protect the insurance industry. If the government orders the closure, businesses can claim.
Typical Johnson cuntery that he will very likely have to row back on within days.
Same with schools, they will be cloaing anyway due to staff shortages and infection fears. I'll be amazed if they are still open next week.
We will end up with the same restrictions as everywhere else, byt piecemeal and completely un coordinated. Its going to be chaos.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Apparently the reason that the government is not ordering pubs etc to close is to protect the insurance industry. If the government orders the closure, businesses can claim.
Typical Johnson cuntery that he will very likely have to row back on within days.

Most policies are unlikely to cover them even if the government forced them to close.

On Wednesday the government said it would declare coronavirus as a "notifiable disease", a classification required by many insurance policies.

But the Association of British Insurers says most business insurance policies are still "unlikely" to cover losses.

Many policies will only cover firms if the virus is found on-site.

"An insurance policy is a contract and any cover is defined in the wording of that contract," a spokesman told the BBC.

They added that "it may be possible to buy consequential business interruption cover for notifiable diseases as an extension to a business insurance policy.

"Standard business insurance policies are designed and priced to cover standard risks, not those that are very unlikely, such as the effects of Covid-19."

SOURCE - BBC

 

[Marty1]

Promising.

Coronavirus vaccine: first dose administered in clinical trial — Business Insider

A volunteer on Monday received an experimental coronavirus vaccine in the first clinical trial with people. The potential vaccine - developed by Moderna, a small Massachusetts biotech company - has had a speedy development: Moderna went from sequencing the virus' genetic information to shipping...

apple.news

 

[cupid_stunt]

Promising.

Coronavirus vaccine: first dose administered in clinical trial — Business Insider

A volunteer on Monday received an experimental coronavirus vaccine in the first clinical trial with people. The potential vaccine - developed by Moderna, a small Massachusetts biotech company - has had a speedy development: Moderna went from sequencing the virus' genetic information to shipping...

apple.news

Clinical testing will take at least a year to 18 months to determine whether the vaccine is safe and effective, Anthony Fauci, the longtime head of the National Institutes of Health's infectious-disease unit, has repeatedly said.

 

[chilango]

Be interesting to see the state of schools today.

 

[Marty1]

Very good site showing current global impact of coronavirus.

Coronavirus Dashboard

Live coronavirus dashboard tracker. See data, maps, social media trends, and learn about prevention measures.

ncov2019.live

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I have neutropenia, a low white blood cell count that makes it hard to fight infections etc. Should I ring 111 in advance of getting anything? Or just wait until I do? Don't want to bother an already overloaded service.

 

[platinumsage]

Here's the Imperial College paper that government policy is based on. Well worth reading: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/im...-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

It comes back in the winter if we try and return to normal in September:



We might be able to have brief periods of non-social distancing without overwhelming the critical care capacity:

 

[cantsin]

I have neutropenia, a low white blood cell count that makes it hard to fight infections etc. Should I ring 111 in advance of getting anything? Or just wait until I do? Don't want to bother an already overloaded service.

Step dad has it ( due to chemo) - just being told to be super cautious on way to / from hospital ( he looks so f*cked everyone staying well clear anyway ) , and to self isolate (obvs) - cld be long old haul for you folk, solidarity ️

 

[not-bono-ever]

London Bridge station at 8.45

 

[brogdale]

Here's the Imperial College paper that government policy is based on. Well worth reading: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/im...-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

It comes back in the winter if we try and return to normal in September:

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We might be able to have brief periods of non-social distancing without overwhelming the critical care capacity:

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That flat red line.
Blood on their hands.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Step dad has it ( due to chemo) - just being told to be super cautious on way to / from hospital ( he looks so f*cked everyone staying well clear anyway ) , and to self isolate (obvs) - cld be long old haul for you folk, solidarity ️

Maybe I should call to see if I should self isolate now. . . . I currently work on my own, but it is in Soho.
I feel they would just tell me to stay home whatever I say. . . Which is going to be tricky for work.

 

[two sheds]

That flat red line.
Blood on their hands.

True - and the first of that type of graph I've seen that has actually drawn it to scale. The graphs normally show a huge hospital capacity that made the government 'herd immunity' policy look a lot more sensible than it was.

 

[platinumsage]

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[brogdale]

True - and the first of that type of graph I've seen that has actually drawn it to scale. The graphs normally show a huge hospital capacity that made the government 'herd immunity' policy look a lot more sensible than it was.

Even that red line is garbage. There might be 4k ICU beds in the UK, but that number is pretty meaningless if they're all full. They were generally at 95%+ 'BC'.

 

[Yossarian]

Hong Kong is now quarantining all arrivals from overseas after 50 out of 57 cases were linked to foreigners arriving from Europe - local media hasn't failed to notice that Westerners aren't keen on wearing masks.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

14 days self isolation now when entering Australia and New Zealand. The Kiwi's are threatening to deport people who arrive and do not comply

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www.tvnz.co.nz

 

[Yu_Gi_Oh]

That HK quarantine starts on 19th, right?

So many laowai in HK without masks.

 

[Cid]

That HK quarantine starts on 19th, right?

So many laowai in HK without masks.

Where are you now? You know what measures are in place on the mainland? Bit worried for a friend who has ocd and is quite traditional. Suspect they haven’t been outside since this started... want to try to reassure them that they could go to their park as long as they maintain distancing.

 

[Lucy Fur]

So I live in a very rural part of South West France, and until recently theres been very little impact. But then if a car drives through the village, that's news. Yesterday though, only the supermarket was open in the nearest major town of Condom (stop sniggering). All other shops, bars resturants were closed. I had to drive to another smaller village that did have a pharmacy open. Also we have to download a government form and have it on us if we get stopped by the Gendarme that explains what we are doing. Theres been a little panic buying, mainly pasta, but no real shortage of anything. Technically, I cant meet with friends, but I've got enough work in the allotment at the moment I wouldn't be anyway. Stay healthy you lot.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

In some countries, apparently, they are saying that those on blood thinners, anti-coagulants, are at risk. Our NHS guidelines don’t mention this. Does anyone know the facts here? And if there is a danger is it solely for warfarin or does it include the newer drugs, e.g. riveroxaban apixaban etc?

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Had the kid with me until this morning. Yesterday we went for a walk cos we were bored been cooped up. Fucking loads of people working from home on the beach.

 

[SpookyFrank]

So I live in a very rural part of South West France, and until recently theres been very little impact. But then if a car drives through the village, that's news. Yesterday though, only the supermarket was open in the nearest major town of Condom (stop sniggering). All other shops, bars resturants were closed. I had to drive to another smaller village that did have a pharmacy open. Also we have to download a government form and have it on us if we get stopped by the Gendarme that explains what we are doing. Theres been a little panic buying, mainly pasta, but no real shortage of anything. Technically, I cant meet with friends, but I've got enough work in the allotment at the moment I wouldn't be anyway. Stay healthy you lot.

One thing I was thinking about was how in France and Italy you have your Gendarmes and Carabineiri who are a common sight out in the countryside and on the roads. There's no equivalent of that here in the UK, so any policing of travel between towns and cities will have to be done by the same police that will have all sorts of other stuff to do in the towns and cities.

People on the police forums are pretty unimpressed with the proposed policing measurses. The question of how they are supposed to a) identify and b) detain sick people who are refusing to self-isolate seems to be a major concern, although as is traditional with the filth they're mainly worried about the implications for their own health rather than the health and welfare of the general public.

 

[Sasaferrato]

You can catch it AND spread it before showing signs of illness.

That is the problem with many infectious illnesses.

 

[Supine]

I’ve successfully managed to get my 78 year old mum to leave work in London and head home for the foreseeable.

She still plans on going to church on Sundays. Time for churches to stop services imho.

 

[Yossarian]

That HK quarantine starts on 19th, right?

So many laowai in HK without masks.

Yep, starts Thursday - only places exempt are Macau and Taiwan.