Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
You have preempted my response, I wasn't going to put it quite as strongly, but yes, grossly irresponsible to be out and about for the next few days.
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You have preempted my response, I wasn't going to put it quite as strongly, but yes, grossly irresponsible to be out and about for the next few days.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
The main issue is lack of reagant and material not enough capacity, when they had 7 weeks. Where are those 5,000 a day?
The tests are being misdirected perhaps those in hospital don't need testing everyone with breathing difficulty should be assumed to be a case. It's others including asymptomatics outside that need testing and isolation.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
What's wrong with you? You should act as if you are a carrier to slow its spread.
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Unless you're a qualified doctor, I don't think you can assume anything of the sort.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
It's become the working assumption in Italy. Maybe it will here too. Tomographies are also too slow apparently.
It's also apparently an axiom in infectious pandemics that as cases rise
Can I remind everyone that at some point during any significant outbreak/pandemic the positive predictive value of a clinical diagnosis becomes close to 100%. At that point the laboratory test becomes redundant.
This is why China changed its case definitions because it was out of testing capacity, but as the effect of containment measures came to fruition and the peak was passed tests could be carried out.
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Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
You're probably right - doesn't mean we should all just throw up our hands and give up trying to avoid dying.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Probably inevitable, but the band has taken the decision to cancel Saturday's gig. Boo.
Posting this from the pub. Obv I will stay home if i become ill. Now avoiding vunrible as far as poss.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
You can catch it AND spread it before showing signs of illness.
I won’t be out much next few weeks but i was already on my way here.
I'm a senior tutor for med students--they were told last week to keep coming to hospital.i told them that was irresponsible and signed them all off early. They have now all been sent home by the university (except for final year students who they are keen to graduate - I assume so we can bring the poor fuckers into the fray)
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Went shopping today at the cash and carry wine and beer shop , all staff wearing masks , same at the doctors when I popped in to order a repeat prescription and at one of the supermarkets.First time I’ve seen masks here . Govt will debate/ announce a State of Emergency Wednesday , the first since the revolution . Flights in and out of Madeira have stopped , and despite an announcement about ceasing non essential travel , flights in and out of Portugal are still going . Border between Spain and Portugal closed aside from good services people working . Schools closed . First death announced today .
Thanks for your specialist advice. Err.. So we will massively redirect ppe where it isn't needed?
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Tell him to close the fucking schools then.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
Yeah, annoyed by the panic buying that has created shortages where there need be none, but at the same time this government fucked it in terms of messaging and that's what made people panic. They're still fucking it to be honest. Don't go out to the pub but send your kids to a school with a thousand kids in it? That is not going to inspire confidence in the government line.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Coronavirus: PM says everyone should avoid office, pubs and travelling
Other "drastic" steps include more working from home and whole households staying at home for 14 days if one person has symptoms.
www.bbc.co.uk
A main page for today's announcement.
Also from that page:
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
I am going by Italy now where hospitals are either COVID and non-COVID.
They are still testing some non-hospitalised people. But their capacity is higher they've done 140,000 tests more than here.
As I understand it now tests here are done only for those in hospital for "pneumonia, acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) or flu like illness". So loads of contacts aren't being traced or isolated.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
I meant the person coming from SE Asia.
There are sound reasons for not closing the schools at the moment.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
It will unfortunately encourage those who do not have personal connection with a confirmed case to continue going to the pub.
I don't understand how people can be advised not to go to theatres, cinemas, pubs but without any fines for these events staying open. It's the madness of the market system in action.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Err, the message from both the government & the supermarkets has been very clear - don't panic buy - it couldn't have been clearer.
Trouble is the media has been covering that message at the same time as showing footage or pictures of empty shelves, encouraging idiots to panic buy.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
No, there aren’t. In time this will be seen as one of the most foolish mistakes we have made. Schools are breeding grounds for disease at the best of times. Millions of ‘unavoidable’ connections being made every day. It’s the perfect way to spread it and why a hell of a lot of other countries have made the move to close schools.
Add to that, I don’t like the government playing roulette with my life. Especially when it’s just a matter of time. I’m willing to bet these ‘sound reasons’ won’t count for shit in a few days time when, guess what, they’ll close the schools.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
You are in for a rough time I think. Prolonged barrier treatment is very hard to maintain.
Coronavirus: PM says everyone should avoid office, pubs and travelling
Other "drastic" steps include more working from home and whole households staying at home for 14 days if one person has symptoms.
www.bbc.co.uk
bimble
floofy
but it’ll be even worse now, with the instruction for all of a household to avoid leaving the house for two weeks if one person is unwell. Of course people will run around trying to stock up on more food than they usually buy day to day. some of its irrational and selfish but some just a logical response to being told things like that.
Went to my two nearby towns today looking for paracetamol and a thermometer zero of either anywhere.
Dead Cat Bounce
A member of the Waffle elite.
Got a friend working in Geneva and she's just messaged me to say that a state of emergency has been declared and all land borders will be closed from midnight.
