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[Sasaferrato]

No, there aren’t. In time this will be seen as one of the most foolish mistakes we have made. Schools are breeding grounds for disease at the best of times. Millions of ‘unavoidable’ connections being made every day. It’s the perfect way to spread it and why a hell of a lot of other countries have made the move to close schools.

Add to that, I don’t like the government playing roulette with my life. Especially when it’s just a matter of time. I’m willing to bet these ‘sound reasons’ won’t count for shit in a few days time when, guess what, they’ll close the schools.

OK. Close the schools, you are then taking every nurse and doctor who has children out of the system. That will not slow the spread, but will kill non corona patients in greater numbers. Children need to be cared for, would you shut down childminders and nurseries as well?

I'm in the very high risk group, and I want to see an end to this too, but before it is over, hard choices are going to have to be made. I wouldn't realistically expect to have the use of a ventilator that is needed for someone half my age, with productive life ahead of them.

 

[Marty1]

So what the EU’s strategy for this pandemic?

 

[bimble]

Got a friend working in Geneva and she's just messaged me to say that a state of emergency has been declared and all land borders will be closed from midnight.

yep. my old parents live in swissland. All restaurants bars etc and shops apart from food and pharmacies closing tomorrow they say. Dont know if thats the whole country or just their bit. They are scared.

 

[planetgeli]

OK. Close the schools, you are then taking every nurse and doctor who has children out of the system. That will not slow the spread, but will kill non corona patients in greater numbers. Children need to be cared for, would you shut down childminders and nurseries as well?

Nobody says this is going to be easy. But closing down schools will slow the spread, massively. Way beyond the numbers involved in finding extra childcare for docs and nurses. Childminders and nurseries are nowhere near the numbers involved in schools, both in children and staff numbers.

 

[clicker]

Speaking to a friend today and the nursery she uses now takes every kids temperature when they are dropped off.

 

[Supine]

So what the EU’s strategy for this pandemic?

do you really want to know or is this a prelude to some eu bashing?

Coronavirus response

The Commission’s efforts to aid the fight against the pandemic. Find the latest actions and reliable statistics on the evolution of COVID-19 in the EU.

ec.europa.eu

 

[cupid_stunt]

Got a friend working in Geneva and she's just messaged me to say that a state of emergency has been declared and all land borders will be closed from midnight.

I am not surprised, they are now on around 272 cases per 1 million, second place to Italy in Europe, and well ahead of Spain on 202.

SOURCE

 

[RTWL]

55 uk deaths so far .

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[farmerbarleymow]

do you really want to know or is this a prelude to some eu bashing?

Also known as 'reading the news' - yeah, it seems odd.

 

[miss direct]

Getting serious in Turkey now. As of 11pm tonight, lots of things like cafes/cinemas/gyms closed. Bars already shut. Flights from 20 countries, including the UK, banned. Feel sick.

 

[Marty1]

do you really want to know or is this a prelude to some eu bashing?

Coronavirus response

The Commission’s efforts to aid the fight against the pandemic. Find the latest actions and reliable statistics on the evolution of COVID-19 in the EU.

ec.europa.eu

Thanks for the link.

Just started watching the video by Ursula von der Leyen outlining her response to the pandemic and she’s already contradicting her calls for supporting countries within the EU as a priority- Italy has been snubbed in their request for additional respirators from any of their EU allies.

Looks like EU countries will be relying on themselves in their own national interests.

 

[quimcunx]

This 'why now, not earlier or later, because we believe now is the right time' isn't very convincing when yesterday 7 days was the right time to self isolate and today 14 days is the right length of time. Or is this more of their behavioural science.

 

[Artaxerxes]

So what the EU’s strategy for this pandemic?

Lets hear the UK's one first shall we?

oh right.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Fucking hell Macron has just suspended all rent, gas, mortgage, electricity, water charges for the next 15 days alongside social gatherings and closing bars/events/restuarants etc. Sugaring the pill!

 

[Aladdin]

This article and the simulations are brilliant:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

That explains it very well. Particularly the need for extensive social distancing.

 

[Supine]

Thanks for the link.

Just started watching the video by Ursula von der Leyen outlining her response to the pandemic and she’s already contradicting her calls for supporting countries within the EU as a priority- Italy has been snubbed in their request for additional respirators from any of their EU allies.

Looks like EU countries will be relying on themselves in their own national interests.

I presume no country in europe has enough stocks of spare medical equipment to share them around...

 

[planetgeli]

This 'why now, not earlier or later, because we believe now is the right time' isn't very convincing when yesterday 7 days was the right time to self isolate and today 14 days is the right length of time. Or is this more of their behavioural science.

It's the best science. They said so today. They're listening to the best science.

 

[Fez909]

That explains it very well. Particularly the need for extensive social distancing.

It's the best argument for social distancing I've seen so far. The only downside is they don't mention the deaths/lived saved. If there was a health capacity line that showed how long each measure allowed the curve to go above capacity, I'd say that'd be even better.

I'm surprised it's not more widely shared - some of the other articles get posted here mutliple times a day....

 

[sihhi]

Here's something else I am unclear on from Chris Whitty's press conference.

The claim is Britain is 3 weeks behind Italy. However two weeks ago to the day, Italy had 50 deaths and had already closed schools at least in the north iirc.

 

[Dead Cat Bounce]

yep. my old parents live in swissland. All restaurants bars etc and shops apart from food and pharmacies closing tomorrow they say. Dont know if thats the whole country or just their bit. They are scared.

At federal level until the 19th of April according to her.

 

[Sasaferrato]

This 'why now, not earlier or later, because we believe now is the right time' isn't very convincing when yesterday 7 days was the right time to self isolate and today 14 days is the right length of time. Or is this more of their behavioural science.

Still 7 days if you live on your own, 14 if there are others in the house.

 

[The39thStep]

I presume no country in europe has enough stocks of spare medical equipment to share them around...
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do you really want to know or is this a prelude to some eu bashing?

Coronavirus response

The Commission’s efforts to aid the fight against the pandemic. Find the latest actions and reliable statistics on the evolution of COVID-19 in the EU.

ec.europa.eu

the first thing it could do is scrap the tariffs and duties from countries outside the EU for medical equipments and supplies . Whether it was bad timing or not they also imposed a fine of several million on Italy in the midst of their crisis for subsidising tourism .

 

[a_chap]

I happen to be working away from home today and staying overnight in deepest Bedfordshire.

The AirBnB I'm staying in won't let people eat takeaways or fisn'n'chips in the room so my only option for a hot meal is either a pub, indian or italian restaurant. I picked the italian expecting it to be deserted on a Monday night.

It was packed.

I'm doomed...

 

[Marty1]

Lets hear the UK's one first shall we?

oh right.

Social distancing, working from home if possible and good hygiene of regularly washing hands.

The same advice the CDC are recommending in the US to reduce infection.

Meanwhile the EU have offered the worst hit country in the EU - Italy zero help with respirators and as 39thStep has mentioned - slapped them with a massive fine for outsourcing medical equipment outside the EU.

 

[weltweit]

Germany seems to be doing relatively well, 7,000 odd cases but just 14 deaths.

And South Korea also doing quite well, 8,000 cases and 75 deaths.

 

[Supine]

Meanwhile the EU have offered the worst hit country in the EU - Italy zero help with respirators

That simply isn't true. The EU have announced a pan European procurement drive to source essential medical equipment for all eu members. They have also offered to include the UK as a recipient of this even though we did brexit.

 

[little_legs]

 

[cupid_stunt]

That simply isn't true. The EU have announced a pan European procurement drive to source essential medical equipment for all eu members. They have also offered to include the UK as a recipient of this even though we did brexit.

So, they are finally waking-up?

Reported last Wednesday...

The Italian government has accused the EU and its member states of being slow in coming to the country’s aid over the coronavirus epidemic.
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“Today, this means Italy; tomorrow, the need could be elsewhere. Italy has already asked to activate the European Union mechanism of civil protection for the supply of medical equipment for individual protection. But unfortunately not a single EU country responded to the commission’s call. Only China responded bilaterally. Certainly this is not a good sign of European solidarity.”

SOURCE

 

[cupid_stunt]

Why have you posted that, on this thread, when you have already posted it on the memes thread?

In fact, WTF are you even doing posting on any of the serious threads, when you add nothing worthwhile to them, just worthless & generally pathetic one line posts of total nonsense?

 

[little_legs]

Why have you posted that, on this thread, when you have already posted it on the memes thread?

In fact, WTF are you even doing posting on any of the serious threads, when you add nothing worthwhile to them, just worthless & generally pathetic one line posts of total nonsense?

It's pretty telling that you don't get that it's both comical and tragic.