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[Buddy Bradley]

There is fat, there is spare, there is enough for everyone. It needs to be taken by murderous force from those who obsess about accumulation and depriving us from our righful share.

Settle down, Immortan Joe.

 

[platinumsage]

“In Canada, there was one example of a super-spreader who simply walked through an emergency room that was packed, fairly packed with individuals, & infected 19 people in the less than 15 seconds they were in the emergency room as they walked through it”

Interesting contrast here:

A 60 year old woman infected her husband, but of the 347 other contacts traced including 195 healthcare workers, none of them contracted it: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30607-3/fulltext

We really need to improve our understanding of this super-spreading phenomenon

 

[Lord Camomile]

Don't know if it's been covered elsewhere, but apparently Austria (or Vienna, at least) have suspended the right to assembly and gatherings of more than 5 people are no longer allowed

 

[pogofish]

Well, I’m sitting waiting on a job - we got a vaguely worded email over the weekend that said we were still open, just no events/big meetings and no face to face for a large part of our work.

So today’s job fell outside of that but I’ve been here for twenty minutes and nobody’s shown-up. I have five more sessions scheduled this week.

Just as well I took coffee and an iPad..!

 

[Callie]

where 'viral loads' dropped then rose then dropped again then rose then dropped again, undulating, as they recovered.

Which is totally normal with viral loads btw they undulate but the general trend is the important bit

 

[SheilaNaGig]

I thought this guardian article was interesting. France’s health minister warning that taking ibuprofen may make a covid19 infection worse. I’m sure many people would automatically reach for ibuprofen in the case of aches or fever, so worth publicising widely if this is true.

I doubt the French health minister would be tweeting that unless he was sure of it, so hopefully it gets added to the official UK advice pronto.

Also, using ibuprofen to suppress a fever can increase viral shedding, potentially making us more contagious. Suppressing the fever with aspirin or paracetamol also increases viral shedding.

If we’re isolating at home this becomes somewhat moot since we won’t be exposing others anyway (except the people we live with of course, but I really think it’s almost impossible to self isolate within a household), but it’s something I think should be more widely known.

Viral shedding doesn’t necessarily mean that all the stuff we’re shedding is a viable vector for contagion, but since we’re still groping in the dark here it’s probably worth being cautious, better safe than sorry.

Also, it’s been mentioned elsewhere and I think it’s important enough to mention again: there are reports that some survivors are viral shedding for up to 37 days after recovery. The shedding seems to fluctuate, and again it’s unclear how contagious the viral shedding is. But this means that it is possible that a person who has had a mild case and returns to work could possibly still be contagious for some weeks after they were ill.

 

[Serge Forward]

Bleedin' 'ell... a Chinese friend tells me Beijing airport is jammed up with students just arrived back from the UK, all having temperature checks and on the way to quarantine. They seemed to be of the opinion that they didn't want to die alone here

 

[Buddy Bradley]

Don't know if it's been covered elsewhere, but apparently Austria (or Vienna, at least) have suspended the right to assembly and gatherings of more than 5 people are no longer allowed

(((parents of quadruplets)))

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I'm immuno-suppressed due to my arthritis meds and wondering if I will have to self isolate, along with the over 70s, for "a long time" when we move to the delay phase in a few weeks time. No clear advice on this that I can find. Hopefully it will become clearer over the coming days.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Bleedin' 'ell... a Chinese friend tells me Beijing airport is jammed up with students just arrived back from the UK, all having temperature checks and on the way to quarantine. They seemed to be of the opinion that they didn't want to die alone here

Mate at work has booked a flight home to Greece for Wednesday, looking to get in before the borders close.

I can understand the impulse. I've certainly thought about heading back to my parents, who are only the other side of London, but with an at-risk dad I'm just not sure it's the best idea.

And bloody Mother's Day on Sunday...

 

[Buddy Bradley]

And bloody Mother's Day on Sunday...

Nothing says "I love you" like a 24 pack of toilet rolls.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Nothing says "I love you" like a 24 pack of toilet rolls.

Thanks for that suggestion, mother is now going to get some bog roll on Sunday, for the lolz.

 

[zahir]

Mate at work has booked a flight home to Greece for Wednesday, looking to get in before the borders close.

There’s now a 14 day quarantine for everyone arriving. Most shops will be closed from Wednesday, exceptions include supermarkets, pharmacies and banks.

Coronavirus: 14-day quarantine for those coming to Greece from abroad - Keep Talking Greece

Those arriving to Greece from abroad will be placed in 14-day quarantine, deputy government spokespe

www.keeptalkinggreece.com

 

[Lord Camomile]

There’s now a 14 day quarantine for everyone arriving. Most shops will be closed from Wednesday, exceptions include supermarkets, pharmacies and banks.

Coronavirus: 14-day quarantine for those coming to Greece from abroad - Keep Talking Greece

Those arriving to Greece from abroad will be placed in 14-day quarantine, deputy government spokespe

www.keeptalkinggreece.com

Better tell my mate, although the flights are already booked...

 

[zahir]

There’s no explanation of how quarantine in Greece will actually work. It might just mean him going to his parents’ house and staying inside for 14 days. It might be an idea for him to try and find out though.

 

[cupid_stunt]

China is relaxing travel bans in Hubei province, including Wuhan - the city where coronavirus broke out.

Thousands of workers are being sent back to jobs at factories in a drive to get production going again.

Chinese officials say the outbreak that spread from Wuhan in December has mostly run its course domestically.

SOURCE

BIB - let's hope they are right, but a lot of experts expect it to take off again when lock-downs are lifted, can it seriously be stopped this easily?

I guess we'll know in the next few weeks.

 

[sihhi]

Schools have reopened in Xinjiang

 

[Lord Camomile]

There’s no explanation of how quarantine in Greece will actually work. It might just mean him going to his parents’ house and staying inside for 14 days. It might be an idea for him to try and find out though.

Yeah, this suggests it's home quarantine, and when I spoke to him he seemed to already know about it.

Moreover, the authorities said a 14-day home restriction will be mandatory for those who enter the country.

 

[sihhi]

BIB - let's hope they are right, but a lot of experts expect it to take off again when lock-downs are lifted, can it seriously be stopped this easily?

I guess we'll know in the next few weeks.

Which experts?

 

[William of Walworth]

Is there any prospect of schools closing here (UK)?
That wouldn't affect us personally, but there was a fair bit of talk in the Observer yesterday about how keeping them open was out of line with many other country's policies.

And what about workplaces with really numerous employees ( e.g. 1,000 plus, like mine)

(Apologies if this has been discussed in detail already, but I am interested)

 

[Spandex]

Is there any prospect of schools closing here (UK)?

Yes.

The Headteacher at my kid's primary said she'd been asked to prepare home schooling packs by this Friday.

The school WhatsApp groups are a flurry of learning resources going around.

Everyone thinks it's when, not if. The general assumption seems to be that they'll be closed from next week.

But obviously, no-one knows anything for sure.

 

[chilango]

There's a certain irony for both Leavers and Remainers in the EU shutting it's borders quicker than the UK

 

[William of Walworth]

Spandex : OK, thanks -- I was expecting an answer something like that in fact, because there's been talk round here (Swansea) along the same sort of 'when not if' lines.

 

[chilango]

Is there any prospect of schools closing here (UK)?
That wouldn't affect us personally, but there was a fair bit of talk in the Observer yesterday about how keeping them open was out of line with many other country's policies.

And what about workplaces with really numerous employees ( e.g. 1,000 plus, like mine)

(Apologies if this has been discussed in detail already, but I am interested)

Yep. The 27th has long been mooted as the possible closure date for schools. Teachers are actively setting up remote learning for pupils as we speak. Nobody knows for sure, but, yeah it's pretty much when, not if.

 

[maomao]

I keep getting emails telling me my daughter's school is definitely still open from which I can only surmise that they'll be closing it very soon.

 

[maomao]

DP

 

[sihhi]

And what about workplaces with really numerous employees ( e.g. 1,000 plus, like mine)

Nothing as yet.
Stay at home strike action has shut all of Mercedes plants in Spain.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Yes.

The Headteacher at my kid's primary said she'd been asked to prepare home schooling packs by this Friday.

The school WhatsApp groups are a flurry of learning resources going around.

Everyone thinks it's when, not if. The general assumption seems to be that they'll be closed from next week.

But obviously, no-one knows anything for sure.

I've also heard of two head teachers locally (Brighton) who are preparing for closure by the end of the week. It is going to happen and soon.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Cid]

BIB - let's hope they are right, but a lot of experts expect it to take off again when lock-downs are lifted, can it seriously be stopped this easily?

I guess we'll know in the next few weeks.

I mean... if by easily you mean effectively shutting down an entire country for 2 months.

Although schools are starting to go back, there will still be social distancing in place afaik. My friends' university course are still all online... But it is a worry that the propaganda organs are saying the worst has passed, that will give people the confidence to start mixing again, unless they have some caveats.

 

[Fez909]

Over 40% of infected are in hospital in Spain

Canada closes borders to foreigners – as it happened

WHO urges governments to ‘test, test, test’; US measures ramped up; Germany closes shops. This blog is closed.

www.theguardian.com