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hmmmmm
People make up all sorts of things, don't be disingenuous.Why would a hospital doctor be making this sort of stuff up? For fun?
Anyway, I don't want to derail the thread, I just thought it's worth considering.
People make up all sorts of things, don't be disingenuous.Why would a hospital doctor be making this sort of stuff up? For fun?
Just read this on Twitter if this is anywhere near genuine we should all be fucking petrified
italy is basically triaging patients for ITU if you are old or have co-mobidities they are deciding not to treat you. i.e you are not worth risking material and man power to save within the capacity of the health system
let that sink in.......
I’m hoping it’s called out as fake.......
So after I finished gulping reading that I now need (as a cancer patient) to teach loved ones how to tube me.
What fucking tube? A sterile siphon tube? Something off the net? Can anyone specify please?
Still reeling from reading this. I am going to have to look after myself.
Well if it's a choice between drowning in my own mucous or getting intubated by someone who once watched a James Herriot episode in the 80's I'm going for the latter.No, it's short for intubation. Highly specialized procedure to control the airway of an unconscious patient. Not a learning through watching a Youtube tutorial thing.
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A sterile siphon tube down the gob and into the lung, dont bruise the sides. Dont panic. Dont vomit. Then what?No, it's short for intubation. Highly specialized procedure to control the airway of an unconscious patient. Not a learning through watching a Youtube tutorial thing.
Well if it's a choice between drowning in my own mucous or getting intubated by someone who once watched a James Herriot episode in the 80's I'm going for the latter.
A sterile siphon tube down the gob and into the lung, dont bruise the sides. Dont panic. Dont vomit. Then what?
As for the veracity of that twitter account, the detail and sentiment is pretty consistent with other similar reports. But I dont need to verify what they say anyway, we have data on number of cases in intensive care in Italy.
I have thrown together some of those numbers. There were plenty holes in the info I had for February, but I included a couple of Feb numbers anyway.
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Despite warnings over mass gatherings and the spread of the coronavirus, the mayor of a small town in France has defended a record-breaking rally of people dressed as Smurfs that went ahead in France over the weekend.
Just a day before French authorities banned all gatherings of more than 1,000 people, in a bid to contain the virus, more than 3,500 painted their faces blue and donned the cartoon characters’ liberty cap style headgear for the gathering in Landerneau, western France.
The Smurf rally drew criticism particularly from the media in Italy, which is battling Europe’s most intense outbreak. But Patrick Leclerc, mayor of Landerneau, said:
We must not stop living... it was the chance to say that we are alive
It is entirely true- no admissions to ITU in Italy over 65yrs. I hear no admission if less than that with significant comorbidities.Why would a hospital doctor be making this sort of stuff up? For fun?
It's in part because British travellers are importing the disease into Greece and Greece had not quarantine set up for them. Another 5 cases in Greece all from Britain.
And then thoroughly wash it for twenty seconds while singing God Save The Queen. #FridayNightsThe authorities are really going to have to pull their finger out.
Cross-posting this quote from the Italy thread because it's so :It is entirely true- no admissions to ITU in Italy over 65yrs. I hear no admission if less than that with significant comorbidities.
Lombardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked in Italy, UK and Aus and don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country. The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by Covid-19, they are running 200% capacity.
We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ICUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes. There are hundreds of patients with severe respiratory failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask.
Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ICU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ICU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed.
My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they can only offer some oxygen.
A sterile siphon tube down the gob and into the lung, dont bruise the sides. Dont panic. Dont vomit. Then what?
The phrygian capQuoting this partly because I dont think I will have many other chances to use the phrase liberty cap style headgear during this pandemic.
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40 cases in Portugal ...
I’ll try and find out .Hard to believe, when Spain has over 1,200 confirmed cases.
Any idea on the numbers being tested?
So elbows why do you think Japan seems to have a different pattern to other countries affected by this virus?
There’s not a huge amount of human traffic between Portugal and Spain , well not as much as you’d think prob more between Portugal and France and Portugal and Switzerland.I’ll try and find out .