Coronavirus: music festivals, big gigs, sports events and big gatherings - going ahead and cancelled

[B.I.G]

Why are you claiming that?

Because you said people that can afford social lives aren’t poor.

 

[ice-is-forming]

Orang Utan

Stop a minute and think

 

[Orang Utan]

Because you said people that can afford social lives aren’t poor.

People who can afford to go out to a concert can’t be. Big arena gigs cost around £50, and then you’d have to get there, find somewhere to stay etc. could cos a few hundred

 

[Orang Utan]

Orang Utan

Stop a minute and think

About what?
How there are people who are have a big enough disposable income to go to big concerts and we aren’t supposed to think it selfish of them to try and get their money back instead of help near bankrupt concert venues survive?

 

[B.I.G]

People who can afford to go out to a concert can’t be. Big arena gigs cost around £50, and then you’d have to get there, find somewhere to stay etc. could cos a few hundred

What else shouldn’t they have to qualify as poor. A car? Sky tv? Heating?

 

[Orang Utan]

What else shouldn’t they have to qualify as poor. A car? Sky tv? Heating?

I’ve no idea where you are coming from with this. I’m not criticising anyone but those with disposable income who are petty enough to try and claw their money back while being aware of how precarious the industry is right now.

 

[Sue]

Sometimes people's circumstances have changed. A friend, for example, was on furlough for the duration and has been on reduced hours since.

When she booked some tickets pre-lockdown, she could afford them at a stretch as a treat. Now she can't and asked for a refund when the gig was rescheduled. She's on just above minimum wage so is not exactly rich.

 

[B.I.G]

I’ve no idea where you are coming from with this. I’m not criticising anyone but those with disposable income who are petty enough to try and claw their money back while being aware of how precarious the industry is right now.

Try the post above to understand.

But you won’t get it, which is why you cope so badly in life.

Night.

 

[Orang Utan]

Try the post above to understand.

But you won’t get it, which is why you cope so badly in life.

Night.

I think you have a problem about something else and are taking out on me as your posts have been so strange. And really fucking presumptuous. You don’t know me, yet you seem to think you know how I’m getting on in life and all sorts of other stuff. So you’re either getting me mixed up with someone else or have jumped to some erroneous conclusions about me. You’re creeping me out tbh. I bid you good night, and trust you not to engage with me any more.

 

[B.I.G]

I think you have a problem about something else and are taking out on me as your posts have been so strange. And really fucking presumptuous. You don’t know me, yet you seem to think you know how I’m getting on in life and all sorts of other stuff. So you’re either getting me mixed up with someone else or have jumped to some erroneous conclusions about me. You’re creeping me out tbh. I bid you good night, and trust you not to engage with me any more.

Yet you know how all these concert goers are going in life.

One hundred percent pure.

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

Orang Utan and B.I.G you are both shouting about different demographics, have a glass of tap water and chill out.

 

[Orang Utan]

Sometimes people's circumstances have changed. A friend, for example, was on furlough for the duration and has been on reduced hours since.

When she booked some tickets pre-lockdown, she could afford them at a stretch as a treat. Now she can't and asked for a refund when the gig was rescheduled. She's on just above minimum wage so is not exactly rich.

Hmm, I’ve worked in London on minimum wages or less, and couldn’t even afford to go the pub let alone concert gigs. To me then, people who did this were wealthy to me. Even after earning more, drinks were out of the question, I just had to do it straight edge.
From where I was at the time, the concert goers were all middle class or poshos who wouldn’t understand when you told them a gig you were invited to was way out of reach cos it was so dear

 

[Orang Utan]

Orang Utan and B.I.G you ae both shouting about different demographics, have a glass of tap water and chill out.

This must be it as I haven’t clue what he’s on about.

 

[Orang Utan]

you cope so badly in life.

Why did you say this? It’s a fucked up thing to say to anyone let alone a stranger when you’re a noob on the boards cos you don’t have the knowledge to come to this conclusion.

 

[B.I.G]

Orang Utan and B.I.G you are both shouting about different demographics, have a glass of tap water and chill out.

Well they are thinking about the plight of the struggling business owner and I’m thinking about the person that paid for entertainment they can’t receive. Whereas they can’t comprehend anyone paying for entertainment becoming hard up.

 

[B.I.G]

Why did you say this? It’s a fucked up thing to say to anyone let alone a stranger when you’re a noob on the boards cos you don’t have the knowledge to come to this conclusion.

Are you coping well in life?

 

[Orang Utan]

Well they are thinking about the plight of the struggling business owner and I’m thinking about the person that paid for entertainment they can’t receive. Whereas they can’t comprehend anyone paying for entertainment becoming hard up.

They’re not hard up when they’ve bought a ticket for £50 are they?

 

[Orang Utan]

Are you coping well in life?

None of your business. Why are you bringing it up? What’s it got to do with this thread?

 

[B.I.G]

They’re not hard up when they’ve bought a ticket for £50 are they?

Again. Their circumstances may have changed. It may have been a gift and now they need the money. They may have had the spare money and now they don’t. They may feel they shouldn’t have to pay for something they didn’t receive.

Examples from others have been provided on this thread.

 

[Orang Utan]

It doesn’t matter if they need the money. They’ve already spent it. It’s gone.

 

[B.I.G]

None of your business. Why are you bringing it up? What’s it got to do with this thread?

You are judging others for not doing so well in life they can afford to spare money for things they didn’t receive.

 

[B.I.G]

It doesn’t matter if they need the money. They’ve already spent it. It’s gone.

Except it isn’t and they are entitled to a refund. That is how refunds work.

 

[Sue]

Hmm, I’ve worked in London on minimum wages or less, and couldn’t even afford to go the pub let alone concert gigs. To me then, people who did this were wealthy to me. Even after earning more, drinks were out of the question, I just had to do it straight edge.
From where I was at the time, the concert goers were all middle class or poshos who wouldn’t understand when you told them a gig you were invited to was way out of reach cos it was so dear

She's not in London.

 

[Orang Utan]

You are judging others for not doing so well in life they can afford to spare money for things they didn’t receive.

You’re doing the judging here. It’s not judgmental to observe that people with money to spend on big nights out are probably doing ok and so I’m surprised to see them demand refunds, instead of just signing it off.

 

[Orang Utan]

Except it isn’t and they are entitled to a refund. That is how refunds work.

They may be entitled, but that doesn’t mean they have to get a refund. There is a bigger picture to consider

 

[B.I.G]

You’re doing the judging here. It’s not judgmental to observe that people with money to spend on big nights out are probably doing ok and so I’m surprised to see them demand refunds, instead of just signing it off.

Still don’t have any awareness I see. Work on that and you will do better in life.

In the meantime the poor will have to do without going out to avoid your judgment.

 

[B.I.G]

They may be entitled, but that doesn’t mean they have to get a refund. There is a bigger picture to consider

The bigger picture being more important than their ability to eat or pay their bills. Right.

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

oh FFS
quit it now
will ya

 

[Orang Utan]

Still don’t have any awareness I see. Work on that and you will do better in life.

In the meantime the poor will have to do without going out to avoid your judgment.

Please stop patronising me and making assumptions about my life. I’m only judging the people who can afford to forego the price of a ticket, but who go to the trouble of getting refunds when the bands need that money more

 

[Orang Utan]

The bigger picture being more important than their ability to eat or pay their bills. Right.

I think you need to go to bed as you keep attributing stuff to be that I never said!