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Not sure what you mean by that. Just because someone disagrees with the length of lockdowns, or the speed of reopening, or any other individual aspect of something, doesn't make them small minded. If you read some of my other posts you'll see that I agreed that the lockdowns were necessary but that they needed to be properly supported, etc. Is that not what most people here also think? A difference of opinion does not make one small minded. In fact it's the willingness to consider those other opinions that broadens the mind, surely?
Is this just a long winded way of saying fuck the grandparents, we should have opened up months ago?
 
Well as I said in another reply to Orang Utan, if the timeline is off and BLM protests were legal at the time then that's fair enough. I can't remember when the government changed the law to make protesting illegal.


Protests were covered by an exemption, but the organisers had to take all reasonable steps to prevent covid transmission. Something anti-lockdown protests were a bit less likely to do.
 
Lockdowns are a consequence of the woefully inept gvt handling of this pandemic From track and trace, ppe procurement to consistent messaging. All completely fucked up to the point where we have no choice but to do so to try and reduce transmission rates.
 
Some lockdowns and a range of non-pharmaceutical interventions are also necessary at times, even when governments manage to get loads of stuff right. With things all done right they can be fewer and shorter, but for example a year ago I couldnt have come anywhere close to promising that I had a plan that would avoid one form or another of lockdown.
 
Well as I said in another reply to Orang Utan, if the timeline is off and BLM protests were legal at the time then that's fair enough. I can't remember when the government changed the law to make protesting illegal.
Might be an idea to check your facts first before posting up obvious misinformation.

There's been some very well informed debate on this thread so perhaps you might understand why people take umbrage at some new poster rocking up and talking bollocks.
 
Might be an idea to check your facts first before posting up obvious misinformation.

There's been some very well informed debate on this thread so perhaps you might understand why people take umbrage at some new poster rocking up and talking bollocks.

It's not "obvious misinformation." It's what I remembered being the case. Memories can be wrong and I corrected myself and said that it was fair enough if there was an exemption or no ban in place. Not talking bollocks, just a mistake I guess, given that there was a lot of debate at the time about if protests would spread the virus, if they should be allowed, etc.
 
Maybe we should cut MJ100 a little slack?

There are very few of us on here that know everything about the pandemic and the the history of commenting about it on these boards.

We're all worn out, worn down and MJ just seems to want to vent and understand like most of us.

If they get it wrong sometimes it's no biggy. We all do.
 
Maybe we should cut MJ100 a little slack?

Thanks! I guess people think I'm Trump or Mark Harper in disguise because they have their own prejudices. That's fine, I expected exactly that tbh. It's why I've never bothered registering before and just read posts. I have no interest in the rest of the site because this is the issue affecting everyone's lives right now and it's the only forum here I look at, so idk about any infighting or the histories of individual posters. Guess that makes me (and whoever the other new guy is/was that people were having a go at) outsiders to the community, and outsiders are "dangerous" in some way. I've seen it happen to other people on other sites before many times, unfortunately.
 
Though I'm absolutely against the legislation, I'm pretty sceptical of "granny fined for sitting on bench" style articles in the main simply because it seems to be "news" (i.e. incredibly rare) and probably motivated by other factors. Giving it the billy big bollocks act to an officer, something like that.

I've been up and down the country, having people over, not wearing a mask unless forced, etc etc and no-one's really batted an eyelid, but then I'm not really an arse about it. I just go about my everyday life

I fully expect at some point I'll end up paying a speeding ticket - if you play the game, sometimes you lose. It's a low-ish fine for a reason - the powers that be consider it a crime on par with doing 24 in a 20.
 
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outsiders are "dangerous" in some way.

Oh, no, I'm actually dangerous, simply by existing. If you stand near me in an enclosed space, and I happen to have coronavirus at that specific time, then there's some nonzero chance that I pass it on to you and some nonzero chance you might die.
 
I'm just skimming the document to see if there were any details that didnt leap out at me during the announcements.




That document you've linked to is very big.

Do you know where there might be more info on the bit you picked out ? (How holidays abroad are not allowed & your reason for travel must be filled in on some form before departing anywhere).

I would love to see my parents again, either me going there or them coming here, so a pointer to the info on what exactly the rules are would be great. It looks like the definition of holiday would include visiting parents.
 
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That document you've linked to is very big.

Do you know where there might be more info on the bit you picked out ? (How holidays abroad are not allowed & your reason for travel must be filled in on some form before departing anywhere).

I would love to see my parents again, either me going there or them coming here, so a pointer to the info on what exactly the rules are would be great. It looks like the definition of holiday would include visiting parents.

Apart from no overseas travel, except for very limited reasons, until 17th May at the earliest, nothing more has been said beyond the fact that they are setting up a task force to look into how the sector can be re-opened, but I guess that will depend on how other countries are getting on top of covid, and what new variants are floating around.
 
Thanks! I guess people think I'm Trump or Mark Harper in disguise because they have their own prejudices. That's fine, I expected exactly that tbh. It's why I've never bothered registering before and just read posts. I have no interest in the rest of the site because this is the issue affecting everyone's lives right now and it's the only forum here I look at, so idk about any infighting or the histories of individual posters. Guess that makes me (and whoever the other new guy is/was that people were having a go at) outsiders to the community, and outsiders are "dangerous" in some way. I've seen it happen to other people on other sites before many times, unfortunately.

One of the features of this site is robust debate, people are asked to justify or get get called out on their posts when others think they need to be. This is true of long established posters as well as new ones, so don't feel you are being singled out. There is also a long history of new posters turning up and trolling the site under various guises so that's why some are treated with a degree of circumspect.
 
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I've been up and down the country, having people over, not wearing a mask unless forced, etc etc and no-one's really batted an eyelid, but then I'm not really an arse about it. I just go about my everyday life

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Have you really been doing this? During lockdown? If so, do you not see what incredibly selfish and thoughtless behaviour this is?

People all over the country are struggling, really struggling, with the privations required to keep control this thing, it's really hard, and we're all doing our damnedest nevertheless, because it's for the common good; and you are swanning about doing what you want because, well, you want to, and fuck everyone else. Your behaviour is making it worse for everyone else, making their suffering longer and deeper, even leaving aside the suffering you could cause by being part of a chain of transmission that leads to deaths and debilitations down the line, and you're choosing to do this because you want to go about your everyday life. Do you think everyone else doesn't want to? Why do you think they are not? It is because they are thinking of others, of society, of common good, and not just of themselves.

You say you're not being an arse about it, but I think if you look at your behaviour you'll see it's the behaviour of someone a lot worse than an arse - it's the behaviour of an unpleasant sociopathic self-centred narcissist.

e2a: hopefully you're not actually doing this, and you're just trolling here; still quite peculiar behaviour, but a lot more understandably human - we've all got a lot of anger, and sometimes it seems to make it feel better by making other people angry too. It's generally not great for anyone in the long run, but is of a different quality to the behaviour you're claiming.
 
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One of the features of this site is robust debate, people are asked to justify or get get called out on their posts when others think they need to be. This is true of long established posters as well as new ones, so don't feel you are being singled out. There is also a long history of new posters turning up and trolling the site under various guises so that's why some are treated with a degree of circumspect.
It's a long time since I last read the FAQ, but ISTR that it has some good pointers on general board etiquette. It may not specifically mention barrelling up and calling everyone out for doing it wrong, but it's surely a reasonable implicit expectation?
 
Though I'm absolutely against the legislation, I'm pretty sceptical of "granny fined for sitting on bench" style articles in the main simply because it seems to be "news" (i.e. incredibly rare) and probably motivated by other factors. Giving it the billy big bollocks act to an officer, something like that.

I've been up and down the country, having people over, not wearing a mask unless forced, etc etc and no-one's really batted an eyelid, but then I'm not really an arse about it. I just go about my everyday life

I fully expect at some point I'll end up paying a speeding ticket - if you play the game, sometimes you lose. It's a low-ish fine for a reason - the powers that be consider it a crime on par with doing 24 in a 20.
You absolutely have been an arse about it. A selfish arse
 
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