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The travel industry has expressed disappointment that so few countries are on the UK government's green list for travel, describing the announcement as "overly cautious".

The traffic light system means travel abroad from 17 May will not be illegal.
The 12 green list countries, which include Portugal, Gibraltar and Israel, will not require people to quarantine on return to England.
Firms said leaving the US off the list would risk the UK "falling behind".
I like the sound of 'overly cautious' myself. This government could have used more of that in the past.

 
The traffic light system for travel from abroad is being announced today. Covid travel rules: 'Green list' countries to be revealed

It seems to me that its simply window dressing. The perception of doing something when you're not doing anything. Throughout this pandemic the UK government hasn't given two shits about importation of the virus whatever the variant and only does something when they get embarrassed into it by which time it's far too late.

The green and amber status are essentially worthless. Anywhere green won't stay that way for long and as for amber realistically how many people actually self-quarantine on arrival back? 15% maybe? 20% at a push?
self quarantine should get at the least a phone call or 2 in the 10 days of quarantine or at best, a door knock

My friend from Germany came back to UK in April and quarantined with me. No contact was made at all. She complied with the quarantine bc shes quite a rule following person but there was nothing to make her keep to it
 
I look at the election results and I remember the handful of anti-lockdown idiots we've seen on this forum during this pandemic, people who imagined things reaching the point of civil war etc. Must be quite the reality check for them, except I doubt they would recognise reality if it walked up to them and forced them to wear a mask.
 
The travel list is pretty pathetic. Most of the places on it can only be reached by military transport plane anyway (South Georgia, anyone? Literally 30 people live there). Is there any good epidemiological reason why, say, the USA or China are not on the green list? Vietnam, Thailand, any of the other Asian countries that have dealt pretty well with things? What's so special about Singapore that it manages to sneak in there? Why not the UAE, have they not inoculated more per thousand than we have? Regardless of whether or not they would actually be accepting tourists (after all, Australia and NZ aren't), there are other places that could definitely be on the green list without any undue danger.
 
Always happy to see no flights to the UAE.

Your personal feelings about a middle eastern nation aside, I was asking about an epidemiological reason why the UAE is not on the green list (among many other places that could be). The government have sold the aviation industry down the river this past year, given them far less support than some other areas of the economy, absolutely zero ability to plan for the future, no certainty whatsoever, changing rules on quarantine and shifting countries from red to amber to green at a moment's notice, and keeping them closed or at limited capacity for longer than any other sector except nightclubs. It's been pretty disgraceful the way many governments have treated aviation and tourism tbh, given how many livelihoods it supports around the world. It's not limited to here in the UK but we certainly haven't been 'bowing to the self-interested demands' of anyone in the aviation sector.

If you're not going to open up flights, then you HAVE to give more financial support. Where is Shapps with his bottomless pocketbook on loan from Rishi when it comes to aviation? He said he'd given, I think, seven billion pounds of support, which might sound like a lot but it really isn't.
 
Your personal feelings about a middle eastern nation are irrelevant
Their human rights record may not be of interest to you but it is to me.
The government have sold the aviation industry down the river this past year, given them far less support than some other areas of the economy, absolutely zero ability to plan for the future, no certainty whatsoever, changing rules on quarantine and shifting countries from red to amber to green at a moment's notice, and keeping them closed or at limited capacity for longer than any other sector except nightclubs. It's been pretty disgraceful the way many governments have treated aviation and tourism tbh, given how many livelihoods it supports around the world. It's not limited to here in the UK but we certainly haven't been 'bowing to the self-interested demands' of anyone in the aviation sector.
We're in the middle of a fucking pandemic, with a virus that is mutating daily. Holidays in the sun can wait a bit longer.
 
Holidays in the sun can wait a bit longer.

miss direct is absolutely right, anyone who thinks this is just about holidays in the sun is just being deliberately obtuse. It's about way more than that, and yes we're in a fucking pandemic, does that mean we have to lose all sense of human decency in the process of trying to deal with it?

Again, I'll repeat it. If you're going to continue to ban flights, which is totally fine if there's justification for it, then you HAVE to give more support to the industry or it won't fucking be there at the end of all this shit. Nor will some people if they're kept from their homes and families much longer.
 
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