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If I ordered room service from the hotel I was staying at and it was £200 a night, I really don't think I'm going overboard, even in a pandemic, expecting the food to come on a plate?

You would have flipped out when you discovered no room cleaning :D
 
The Times, now picked-up by other outlets, are reporting that all over 50s will be offered a booster jab this Autumn, perhaps at the same time as a flu jab, one in each arm.

Everyone aged over 50 in the UK will be offered a third Covid-19 vaccination in the autumn in an attempt to eradicate the threat from the infection entirely by Christmas, it has been reported.

Trials of two options are under way, supervised by Chris Whitty, the chief medical officer for England, the newspaper said - adding that the booster regimen could be enough to undercut the threat from both new and existing variants of the virus.

The first reportedly involves vaccines specifically modified to tackle new variants, while the second is for a third shot of one of the three versions already in use: Pfizer-BioNTech , Oxford-AstraZeneca or Moderna.

It is thought the jab could be offered to the public alongside the flu vaccine at the same time, with patients given each immunisation in opposite arms.

An unnamed government minister told the paper: “We will have a lot to say about the booster programme soon. It’s looking really positive so far.

“We think that the level of protection in the population to any variant will be so high that, by Christmas, Covid-19 should have just faded into the background like any other illness in circulation.”

 

Coronavirus variants first detected in India risk becoming the UK’s second most dominant within weeks, experts have warned after total cases rose to 400.

Public Health England (PHE) said on Thursday that there was “no evidence of widespread community transmission or that these variants cause more severe disease or render the vaccines currently deployed any less effective”.

But other scientists said it was worrying that the UK’s detected cases appear to be increasing rapidly despite England still being under social-distancing restrictions. India was placed on England’s travel “red list” from 23 April, restricting arrivals to citizens and residents who must quarantine in a hotel.
 
Reading more 'clusters' of the Indian variant are cropping up. Midwest, Midlands and London (48 cases) mostly but 7 now confirmed cases in Northern Ireland.

Hope this is not a major problem :(
 
500,000 vaccines a day is decent.

Was wondering about deliveries of any of the other vaccines yet, saw this

Interesting to see that the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine is going to be offered to the under 30's to avoid the clotting issue.
 
Reading more 'clusters' of the Indian variant are cropping up. Midwest, Midlands and London (48 cases) mostly but 7 now confirmed cases in Northern Ireland.

Hope this is not a major problem :(


The Guardian said:
The documents reveal 15 cases of B16172 were found in one London care home where residents had their second doses of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine in the week prior to the outbreak. Four of the cases were hospitalised with non-severe illness, and there were no deaths.

This is worrying, I'm not the only one worried. AZ is still preventing getting very sick and dying, but not prevent getting it again.
Going to open up in two weeks time.

Why didn't we close the borders to India?
 
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Yeah and the weekly variant figures also failed to come out as normal on Thursday. I went to the page earlier and at the top it says:

Due to a processing issue, Public Health England’s weekly variant data will not be updated today (Thursday 6 May). The data will be available as soon as possible tomorrow (Friday 7 May). We apologise for the delay.

 



This is worrying, I'm not the only one worried. AZ is still preventing getting very sick and dying, but not prevent getting it again.
Going to open up in two weeks time.

Why didn't we close the borders to India?

It's not worrying at all. It's fantastic news that the AZ vaccine prevented care home residents from getting seriously ill or dying from the B.1.617.2 Indian variant.
 
The traffic light system for travel from abroad is being announced today. Covid travel rules: 'Green list' countries to be revealed

It seems to me that its simply window dressing. The perception of doing something when you're not doing anything. Throughout this pandemic the UK government hasn't given two shits about importation of the virus whatever the variant and only does something when they get embarrassed into it by which time it's far too late.

The green and amber status are essentially worthless. Anywhere green won't stay that way for long and as for amber realistically how many people actually self-quarantine on arrival back? 15% maybe? 20% at a push?
 
In my book they sort of give a shit about it but at the start a lot of the establishment experts also got things badly wrong on that front. ie back to my old rants about the failures of the orthodoxy when this pandemic came along. And later, despite learning something from the past failures, the government are still economically and ideologically allergic to some of the things you'd need to do to really handle imported variants properly.

eg these failures are in part down to the 'international hub' role that this country ended up with as a result of historical things like the remnants of the empire and various aspects of commerce, banking, globalisation, neoliberalism and increased reliance on service industries.
 
The traffic light system for travel from abroad is being announced today. Covid travel rules: 'Green list' countries to be revealed

It seems to me that its simply window dressing. The perception of doing something when you're not doing anything. Throughout this pandemic the UK government hasn't given two shits about importation of the virus whatever the variant and only does something when they get embarrassed into it by which time it's far too late.

The green and amber status are essentially worthless. Anywhere green won't stay that way for long and as for amber realistically how many people actually self-quarantine on arrival back? 15% maybe? 20% at a push?
Cost of the covid tests are eye watering
 
I've just been talking about the following sort of data in the mutations thread, but I feeel the need to put this bit here as well.

 
Was working at the Luton Lateral Flow test centre today. Had the first (4) positive tests for a week which was an Indian family :( also we had to refuse entry to several people with symptoms for the first time in a while. Might have just been one of those days :hmm:

More concerning is that the South African variant has now been found in Luton. Waiting to hear more on that.
 
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This ^ was her whole lunch today.

No outside time allowed today as the security guard was not available.
Update on Indian colleague in (prison) quarantine hotel.

Her telly is broken and they refuse to fix it due to the situation. She asked to change rooms but that was refused.

The Indian man in the room next to her attempted suicide last night :(
 
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