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Not solely a Covid-19 issue this but still a problem. Closing roads (midday onwards or similar?) would give more space to businesses but stealing pavements is shitty behaviour. While I have sympathy for hospitality businesses trying to reopen and re-employ people the planning is the usual fucking mess.



Going to be quite blunt and say I fucking hate pavement dining. It's annoying enough navigating crowds and traffic as it is without people spilling all over the road.

It's never just a couple of chairs either, it's fucking benches, pavement heaters, bloody great wooden barricades or flowerbeds.

If it's still here after Covid I'm just going to stay away as much as possible.
 
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This ^ was her whole lunch today.

No outside time allowed today as the security guard was not available.
She has just called me in tears. They have tested her in India, in the UK and every day at the prison hotel. She just by 'the failed track and trace' got told that someone on the plane tested positive and as a result has been told she will be there for another ten days and needs to pay more :mad:

I have told her to keep a detailed diary, take photos and prepare it for the press. Also told her to contact the Indian Embassy and read up on legal action.
 
She has just called me in tears. They have tested her in India, in the UK and every day at the prison hotel. She just by 'the failed track and trace' got told that someone on the plane tested positive and as a result has been told she will be there for another ten days and needs to pay more :mad:

I have told her to keep a detailed diary, take photos and prepare it for the press. Also told her to contact the Indian Embassy and read up on legal action.

That situation and the one you mentioned above sound really fucked up. How long has she been in the quarantine hotel already? I thought that the window for needing to self isolate after a positive contact was very short, like being in contact with them 48 hours prior to them testing positive?
 
That situation and the one you mentioned above sound really fucked up. How long has she been in the quarantine hotel already? I thought that the window for needing to self isolate after a positive contact was very short, like being in contact with them 48 hours prior to them testing positive?
She has been quarantined on her own for 4 days. Negative tests at both airports and at the hotel. Has not seen another person apart from a distanced security card in PPE four times.

They have said another £800 and 4 more days of this shit. I have done some reading and I am sure she (if testing negative) can't be kept there.

She said there is virtually no staff at the hotel. The phone is almost never answered and they have told all the 'prisoner' guests that if they leave their room it is a £10k fine.
 
Working with a woman from India at the moment. She is a doctor and her husband is a brain surgeon. They moved to the UK at the start of March 2020 :facepalm: and have seen nothing but their home and Luton :( poor fuckers.

Her mother died in India just before the situation there went mental and after the funeral was worried she could not get back to the UK. Due to her residency status she was able to fly back. Obviously has to quarantine for ten days which is not ideal but of course she wanted to be home to her husband.

She flew back on a half full BA flight with 100% mask wearing and (the all Indian passengers) was served Indian food. Said it was as safe as possible with testing and space.

Now is in a quarantine hotel costing £200 per night so £2000.

In a small room and alcohol is not allowed. She does not drink much but worth mentioning.

Allowed 'outside' fresh air' time twice a day (24 hours) for 10 minute's only accompanied by a security guard.

She asked if it would be possible to have some Indian food instead of the pizza/pasta/burger options on the bar menu but was told that she could order that for delivery as they can't provide that. P

The staff are hardly answering any calls (she needed some sanitary products) and when they did it took over 12 hours to arrange and she was charged a 'premium' price for said products to be left outside her door.

When she 'booked up' this she was told that transport back to the airport was part of the package. Has since been told that she has to arrange her own transport/taxi.

I am all for restrictions on international travel but this is a bad way to treat people for £200 a night. We left travel open for a long time and shared our variant around the world. We are still allowing the rich to fly anywhere they want (even Farage the cunt) and Disgraced Prime Minister Johnson was a cunt hair away from flying over to India himself for his money train.

This is just profit from misery isn't it...

Cunts

On the transport thing alone, that was definitely announced as part of the deal (that the payment would include this).
 
She has been quarantined on her own for 4 days. Negative tests at both airports and at the hotel. Has not seen another person apart from a distanced security card in PPE four times.

They have said another £800 and 4 more days of this shit. I have done some reading and I am sure she (if testing negative) can't be kept there.

She said there is virtually no staff at the hotel. The phone is almost never answered and they have told all the 'prisoner' guests that if they leave their room it is a £10k fine.

I'm not familiar with the ramifications of the 'plane contact tested positive' bit but without that complication its not testing positive on the 'day 8' test that normally allows release.
 
Unfortunately it was partly designed to be a deterrent so not surprising that various aspects suck, and they publicised how much it sucked. Its the long extension as a result of someone on the plane testing positive bit that I struggle to find any info about online though, I cant tell if those are really the rules.

If it were me I'd be tempted to email the address mentioned on one of the official government pages, ostensibly its there for a different purpose but maybe it could still be used in this instance:

If you’re intending to travel to the UK in the next 7 days and facing a set of circumstances that are not covered by this guidance, please email your enquiry to dhsctesttrace.customerfeedbackteam@nhs.net.

(from How to quarantine when you arrive in England )
 
Unfortunately it was partly designed to be a deterrent so not surprising that various aspects suck, and they publicised how much it sucked. Its the long extension as a result of someone on the plane testing positive bit that I struggle to find any info about online though, I cant tell if those are really the rules.

If it were me I'd be tempted to email the address mentioned on one of the official government pages, ostensibly its there for a different purpose but maybe it could still be used in this instance:



(from How to quarantine when you arrive in England )
I do get that. Just this is disaster capitalism at it's worst. I have got in touch with her (Labour) MP and passed her contact details on.

Will pass that email on too.
 
Leaving the airports open for a year during the highest death rates...

Now we have testing in place, only one death in the UK yesterday, this cashing in is hard to take. She is a tough lass, would be happy with decent food and a short bit of fresh air twice a day for £200 a day no less. She knew what she was signing up for.

The Indian 'variant' is the Kent variant isn't it?
 
Yeh its only on point in so much as thats why India ended up on the red list of countries in the first place.

There are actually 3 different Indian variant versions that are being tracked in the UK and elsewhere these days. All three now show up on the weekly list of numbers I've been posting on the Covid Mutations thread. #285

I am in favour of the hotel quarantine system but not the way they've implemented it, the standard of food and the cost.

So although I have much sympathy with the other aspects you raise, I'm mostly trying to stick to the bit about her stay being extended as a result of the positive case on the plane. I dont really understand the underlying justification for this, the rationale, since the initial standard 10 day quarantine period and the need to take 2 negative tests should really cover the infection timescales if exposed to someone in the other country or on the journey. In my mind it would only be being exposed to a positive contact during the quarantine period that could justify extending the time period (or testing positive yourself during that period).
 
Unfortunately it was partly designed to be a deterrent so not surprising that various aspects suck, and they publicised how much it sucked. Its the long extension as a result of someone on the plane testing positive bit that I struggle to find any info about online though, I cant tell if those are really the rules.

If it were me I'd be tempted to email the address mentioned on one of the official government pages, ostensibly its there for a different purpose but maybe it could still be used in this instance:



(from How to quarantine when you arrive in England )
the rules about being a contact of the person testing positive are on this Booking and staying in a quarantine hotel when you arrive in England - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk) That page also says travel to hotel should be included in package, and hotels should be able to accomadate dietary requirements.
 
the rules about being a contact of the person testing positive are on this Booking and staying in a quarantine hotel when you arrive in England - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk) That page also says travel to hotel should be included in package, and hotels should be able to accomadate dietary requirements.

Thanks. It only seems to cover contacts you have been with during the quarantine period ("If you’re in quarantine with people you have travelled with"), so I cant bring myself to apply what it says to someone on the plane testing positive, that you arent sharing quarantine space with.
 
Thanks. It only seems to cover contacts you have been with during the quarantine period ("If you’re in quarantine with people you have travelled with"), so I cant bring myself to apply what it says to someone on the plane testing positive, that you arent sharing quarantine space with.
A mate who has just been returned from Burma got a text saying someone on his flight had tested positive, but it didn't make any difference to the length of his stay, still got out as promised after eight days. He was told everyone on any flight in was likely to get such a text. It was one of three he had, all requiring some other bod to ring him up and ensure he was where he said he was meant to be. Tis completely cocked up.
 
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This ^ was her whole lunch today.

No outside time allowed today as the security guard was not available.

How shit is that! I'm assuming the hotel they are in doesn't have the kitchen open. Or whoever has booked the rooms isn't buying anything from the hotel.
No hotel kitchen near any airport would serve that. It would come on a plate.
 
Hotels have spent a lot of the last year serving food in takeaway packaging. Expensive hotels and cheap ones!

If I ordered room service from the hotel I was staying at and it was £200 a night, I really don't think I'm going overboard, even in a pandemic, expecting the food to come on a plate?
Costco sell really nice disposable plates, knives and forks.
 
I mean it's quarantine. Disposable packaging seems pretty logical.

Not that that's a particularly important aspect of the situation.

It kinda does, but is there any real evidence you can get COVID from food or washing up? Not sure.
Something caught my eye about flushing toilets might be a vector in some quarantine hotels depending on how they are plumbed.
 
It kinda does, but is there any real evidence you can get COVID from food or washing up? Not sure.
Something caught my eye about flushing toilets might be a vector in some quarantine hotels depending on how they are plumbed.
I suspect that it's more that it meant a lucrative contract for prepackaged food supplies was thus available to a sufficiently generous Party donor. People who plate up food and wash up the crockery aren't, generally, reliable supporters of the Conservative party.
 
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