Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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Had forgotten that Gove gaffe- although to be fair to him masks were not yet mandatory when he went for his sarnie, so it's not quite up there with Sunak's three million missing self employed or Cuomo's 12,000 care home dead. Just makes him look like a bit of a twat (which, to be fair, he is) after telling people it was good manners. At least he bothered tucking his shirt in though, which is more than can be said for BoJo.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
This will be interesting, it will show if outdoor events are as safe as people expect them to be. Stadiums could just keep the bars closed.
www.theguardian.com
No social distancing at FA Cup final as government test reopening plan
Increased crowds will be allowed to watch May’s FA Cup final and the World Snooker Championship as the government test a plan to fully reopen venues.
elbows
Well-Known Member
There is some appetite in the press to skewer Johnson to mark the upcoming anniversary of the first lockdown. And no shortage of people behind the scenes willing to drop the deadly shit in it.
This one focuses somewhat on 2nd wave errors. I think this sort of thing would have more teeth if the press in this country widely reported on the second wave by giving a total for 2nd wave deaths rather than mostly only ever mentioning overall totals of various sorts. I will cover the various totals for 2nd wave deaths later this week.
If the BBC want to understand more about various political influences at work in the shockingly shit September decisions, perhaps they could ask their own Nick Triggle why he was busy trying to undermine the modelling projections back then.
I dont think this is the first article recently that has started mentioning how they've learnt it was a meeting on March 14th last year which made clear to government the extent to which their expectations about the scale and timing of the situation were all wrong. But I will cover this subject when I do my next 'on this date in history' post tomorrow, as I'll be covering what happened since my previous Friday 13th date in history recap then. The meeting of the 14th as described is certainly consistent with the pieces of the puzzle we already knew.
This one focuses somewhat on 2nd wave errors. I think this sort of thing would have more teeth if the press in this country widely reported on the second wave by giving a total for 2nd wave deaths rather than mostly only ever mentioning overall totals of various sorts. I will cover the various totals for 2nd wave deaths later this week.
Ministers frustrated with PM's 'mistakes' ahead of Covid second wave
Senior figures tell the BBC Boris Johnson should have been tougher in the autumn to prevent more deaths.
www.bbc.co.uk
If the BBC want to understand more about various political influences at work in the shockingly shit September decisions, perhaps they could ask their own Nick Triggle why he was busy trying to undermine the modelling projections back then.
I dont think this is the first article recently that has started mentioning how they've learnt it was a meeting on March 14th last year which made clear to government the extent to which their expectations about the scale and timing of the situation were all wrong. But I will cover this subject when I do my next 'on this date in history' post tomorrow, as I'll be covering what happened since my previous Friday 13th date in history recap then. The meeting of the 14th as described is certainly consistent with the pieces of the puzzle we already knew.
elbows
Well-Known Member
My mood is too low (because of #20 ) to post what I had intended to today.
This will have to do instead.
This will have to do instead.
Covid: The inside story of the government's battle against the virus
Twenty of Downing Street's most senior politicians, officials and former officials take you "into the room" where essential Covid decisions were being made.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Wonder if I can be arsed making a placard or something for the window calling Boris a cunt.
Covid-19: UK national day of reflection to be held on 23 March
Politicians back a charity's plan to commemorate a year since the first national restrictions began.
www.bbc.co.uk
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Not sure I would be able to restrain my language sufficiently - and I would be preaching to the converted around here ...Wonder if I can be arsed making a placard or something for the window calling Boris a cunt.
Covid-19: UK national day of reflection to be held on 23 March
Politicians back a charity's plan to commemorate a year since the first national restrictions began.www.bbc.co.uk
Cloo
Banana for scale
Covid: NHS warns of 'significant reduction' in vaccines
Local health organisations in England have been told to expect a reduced vaccine supply in April.
www.bbc.co.uk
Bollocks. I guess that means my and husband's vaccinations are put back a month or so then
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Covid: NHS warns of 'significant reduction' in vaccines
Local health organisations in England have been told to expect a reduced vaccine supply in April.www.bbc.co.uk
Bollocks. I guess that my and husband's vaccinations put back a month or so then
Ah shite. Just got so excited. Looks like booking has opened for 50+ today, and bf just booked his slots today. So still pleased about that, but really hoped it might be my turn in a couple of weeks, too!
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
So teachers in their 30's should now be getting a vaccine just as the summer holidays start
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Covid: NHS warns of 'significant reduction' in vaccines
Local health organisations in England have been told to expect a reduced vaccine supply in April.www.bbc.co.uk
Bollocks. I guess that means my and husband's vaccinations are put back a month or so then
Ah bollox. Same here.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Covid: NHS warns of 'significant reduction' in vaccines
Local health organisations in England have been told to expect a reduced vaccine supply in April.www.bbc.co.uk
Bollocks. I guess that means my and husband's vaccinations are put back a month or so then
So complex it's as opaque as it's possible to be. Vials, ingredients, complex processes. At least it's still 2 million a week, a lot more than nothing.
I was thinking the Moderna vaccine is due to be delivered in April, wonder what happened to that. 17 million doses. Wondering about the J&J vaccine too. It's available in the states.
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Leighsw2
strictly off the record
Maybe it's already running out? I went for my vaccination on Monday, only to see a handwritten notice in the window saying they were cancelled and to re-book. Upon enquiry I was told the supply hadn't been delivered that day. I've re-booked for Saturday - at a different location - let's see what happens!
From that story's 'Analysis' by the (often correctly criticised) Nick Triggle :Bollocks. I guess that means my and husband's vaccinations are put back a month or so thenCovid: NHS warns of 'significant reduction' in vaccines
Local health organisations in England have been told to expect a reduced vaccine supply in April.www.bbc.co.uk
Nick Triggle said:
But how reliably established are those numbers?
And how easily might they be rectified?
Watch that space carefully, I'd suggest ... there could possibly? be an element of 'worst case scenario' spin included there. Maybe .......
Still happening,,according to the BBC story -- it seems to be April that's being highlighted as the main concern .....
Supine
Newt Member
It's a non story imo. Supplies will go up and down as batches are released and shipped. One week is a good news story and one week is a disaster story. I've not heard anything about serious issues in the supply chain so almost certainly just natural variation as batches arrive and get used.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
Being a suspicious personage ...
I'm now wondering if the story about "potential shortages" - especially since Pfizer had a shortfall in February whilst they re-arranged their place at Puurs to actually make more - is intended to make people more eager to get a jab "in case they miss out" ?
and to counteract the publicity given to the European pauses (ref blood clots) - are those nations just stockpiling dozes ?
Or am I just over-thinking the matter ?
I'm now wondering if the story about "potential shortages" - especially since Pfizer had a shortfall in February whilst they re-arranged their place at Puurs to actually make more - is intended to make people more eager to get a jab "in case they miss out" ?
and to counteract the publicity given to the European pauses (ref blood clots) - are those nations just stockpiling dozes ?
Or am I just over-thinking the matter ?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
It suggests a level of cunning that this government has hitherto conspicuously failed to display...
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Deliberately undermining what is so far their one unambiguous success story would seem an odd approach tbh.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I doubt this will come of any surprise to anyone here, up to 27,000 extra deaths. 
www.theguardian.com
Delaying England's winter lockdown 'caused up to 27,000 extra Covid deaths'
Thinktank says government’s decision was a ‘huge mistake’ and should be central to any pandemic inquiry
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
It seems due to a delay in AZ vaccine coming from India.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Over-thinking and conspiratorial.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
I didn't say I believed my own words ...
I don't think that anyway, as existentialist says, it would be an unlikely level of cunning for this government !
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Just announced on Sky News, there's going to be an extra Downing Street press briefing today, they assume at 5pm, with Johnson.
Possibly just an attempt to get some control of the vaccine narrative which is drifting away from them? Seems to be what politicians actually bother about rather than any new and useful information.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I suspect that will be the case, there doesn't seem much else to cover at the moment, beyond reassuring people over the Oxford/AZ vaccine, and explaining the shortfall of doses from India and its impact on the roll-out.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
If any legitimate public health professional was anywhere near the messaging on this they wouldn't stand for that kind of truth-twisting. There's enough bullshit around vaccines as it is without the good guys deliberately stirring in a bit more.
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