Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
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Coronavirus Conspiracy Corner
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CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
My ears twitched on "Victoria" this morning to tho the trailer for this profile of Kate Shemirani by her son
Video experience headlines - BBC News
longer audio version Trending - Help! My mum is a conspiracy influencer - BBC Sounds
Video experience headlines - BBC News
longer audio version Trending - Help! My mum is a conspiracy influencer - BBC Sounds
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Excellent LRB article by James Meek on the proliferation of Covid and other conspiracies:
www.lrb.co.uk
James Meek · Red Pill, Blue Pill
Conspiracists describe epiphanies where they start to see the big picture, the universal meta-conspiracy that ex...
www.lrb.co.uk
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Hopefully this twat will get voted out next time.
Basically, as long as her neighbours, relatives, friends and work people avoid it, it's fake.
www.chroniclelive.co.uk
Basically, as long as her neighbours, relatives, friends and work people avoid it, it's fake.
County Durham councillor claims Covid is 'fake virus' in shocking video
Great Aycliffe town councillor Irene Hewitson says she will only believe coronavirus is real when the people she is close to start dying
editor
hiraethified
Hopefully this twat will get voted out next time.
Basically, as long as her neighbours, relatives, friends and work people avoid it, it's fake.
County Durham councillor claims Covid is 'fake virus' in shocking video
Great Aycliffe town councillor Irene Hewitson says she will only believe coronavirus is real when the people she is close to start dying
What an absolute fucking moron.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
bit late to start believing at that point really
Excellent LRB article by James Meek on the proliferation of Covid and other conspiracies:
James Meek · Red Pill, Blue Pill
Conspiracists describe epiphanies where they start to see the big picture, the universal meta-conspiracy that ex...
I've rread that article now, and it's well worth the time.
Here's some stuff in the article, firstly about and then sourced (at that Icke rally in August) from an ultra-conspiracist there, 'Martin' :
James Meek said:
Martin said:
Major respect to James Meek for investigating and trying to understand all this stuff, but every time I read about these things, I still find myself utterly failing to grasp why apparantly intelligent and well-read (or bad-book-reading!!) people, or ANYONE
, can believe all or even just some of the above shit.TLDR? Bonkers isn't the half of it!!
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CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Mike Yeadon has - in about a week - graduated from an extremely verbose interviewee on Mr Delinpole's podcast to a guest spot in the Daily Mail
DR MIKE YEADON:Three facts No 10's experts got wrong
DR MIKE YEADON:On Monday more than 30million Britons will be under Tier Two and Three restrictions.We will then have days - a few weeks at best - until the inevitable total lockdown.
I can never read the Mail online - it's riddled with pop-ups.
Their timing is good - Yeadon claims Covid testing is dominated by false positives and the death rate is a fraction of a percent anyway.
The Daily Mail was the paper that thought Adolf Hitler was rather good at reducing unemployment.
Of course arguing about them in an ad hominem way is not scientifically valid as a refutation - and in this respect I do commend Mike Yeadon's ninety minute blast on the Delingpole site. Yeadon never stops talking - and repeatedly says things like Sir Patrick Vallance worked in the next lab to me - though I didn't know it at the time, so anyway that means he knows what I know and when he says what he says he is lying. I'm not saying why he is lying - that's not my job.
In other words Yeadon comes across as a self-promoting self-proclaimed scientist whose speaking techniques resemble Donald Trump.
Though I don't imagine Donald Trump would stoop to writing for the Daily Mail.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Anyone got an online rebuttal for Yeadon’s sctick that I can refer to? Got a friend who’s banging on about him aside from the fact that he’s obviously a crank and that you should never get your ‘facts’ from YouTube videos and Mail articles? (As well as him being quoted by conspiraloons)Mike Yeadon has - in about a week - graduated from an extremely verbose interviewee on Mr Delinpole's podcast to a guest spot in the Daily Mail
DR MIKE YEADON:Three facts No 10's experts got wrong
DR MIKE YEADON:On Monday more than 30million Britons will be under Tier Two and Three restrictions.We will then have days - a few weeks at best - until the inevitable total lockdown.www.dailymail.co.uk
I can never read the Mail online - it's riddled with pop-ups.
Their timing is good - Yeadon claims Covid testing is dominated by false positives and the death rate is a fraction of a percent anyway.
The Daily Mail was the paper that thought Adolf Hitler was rather good at reducing unemployment.
Of course arguing about them in an ad hominem way is not scientifically valid as a refutation - and in this respect I do commend Mike Yeadon's ninety minute blast on the Delingpole site. Yeadon never stops talking - and repeatedly says things like Sir Patrick Vallance worked in the next lab to me - though I didn't know it at the time, so anyway that means he knows what I know and when he says what he says he is lying. I'm not saying why he is lying - that's not my job.
In other words Yeadon comes across as a self-promoting self-proclaimed scientist whose speaking techniques resemble Donald Trump.
Though I don't imagine Donald Trump would stoop to writing for the Daily Mail.
Lurdan
old wave
Washington Post yesterday (very paywalled) (link fwiw)
After Virginia faulted a Christian day care for lack of masks, pastor told parents covid was a ‘hoax’
Nov 16th Little Lambs Daycare's letter to 'reassure' parents
Nov 17th Little Lambs informs parents they are shutting down rather than COMPLY
After Virginia faulted a Christian day care for lack of masks, pastor told parents covid was a ‘hoax’
By
Meagan Flynn,
Sarah Pulliam Bailey and
Michelle Boorstein
November 19, 2020 at 9:08 PM EST
The complaints started to mount after a teacher who tested positive for the coronavirus had been at work maskless — working with toddlers and infants.
In fact, no one was wearing masks at Little Lambs Christian Dayschool, the day care at Fairlawn Christian Academy in Radford, according to Virginia Department of Health records.
But on Monday, Pastor Stephen Phillips sent a memo to parents, telling them that there was nothing to be worried about — and that they shouldn’t trust federal health authorities.
“Don’t allow yourself to be controlled and manipulated by media hype and government propaganda,” the pastor wrote, according to a copy obtained by The Washington Post and which is also referenced in state records. “Please do your own research!”
Now, after parents and even one employee’s boyfriend complained to the state health department, Phillips’s apparent refusal to comply with virus restrictions has led to swift consequences.
Following an immediate investigation, the state suspended Little Lambs Christian Dayschool’s food-service permit, which Noelle Bissell, director of the New River Health District, said is the only regulatory authority health officials have over establishments that flout coronavirus restrictions.
The state took this step only after Phillips told investigators he would refuse to follow public health guidelines. The investigation unfolded this week as Virginia and much of the nation are seeing record surges in coronavirus cases, while hospitals are preparing for influxes of patients.
All Phillips has to do is agree to follow the rules to get his permit back, the state said — but in another letter to parents he made clear he does not intend to do so. Instead, he said that the state shut down his entire business, including Fairlawn Christian Academy, and that parents should “convey their indignation to the Montgomery County Health Department and Governor Ralph Northam.”
“Because we have refused to adopt state mandated Covid guidelines, we have had our license to do business rescinded,” Phillips wrote in a letter provided to The Post by a parent. He added: “If you are not already aware, the entire Covid pandemic has been a hoax to establish an the anti-Christ Kingdom on earth.”
Phillips and other staff members at Fairlawn Christian Academy did not respond to multiple requests for comment Thursday.
Bobby Parker, a spokesman for the state health department, said Phillips’s claim that the state shuttered the school and day care is a misrepresentation of the department’s actions. Only the day care’s food permit is temporarily suspended — but will be restored if Phillips complies with restrictions.
The food permit “is not permanently cast aside,” he said. “There is an opportunity for it to be restored if there’s a demonstration of compliance” with Northam’s executive orders requiring masks and social distancing within businesses.
Parker said he was not aware of any other legal actions the state was taking against the business that could lead to it being shut down. The Virginia Department of Social Services, which oversees child-care facilities, could not be reached for comment Thursday evening. Online DSS records show Little Lambs day care is exempt from licensing because it is a religious facility. It has a capacity of 95 kids, ages 1 month old to under 13.
The decision by Phillips and his wife, Patrice Phillips, to close both the day care and Christian school has left parents scrambling to find new schooling and child-care options.
As a single mom, Chelsea Sewell, 28, was devastated to learn that the school was closing. Her 6-year-old daughter Marlee had been part of the day care since she was 2 and started attending the Christian school this year to avoid virtual learning in the public school system.
Sewell said she didn’t think it was a health risk to put her daughter in school, but she does believe covid-19 is “100 percent real.”
“This letter is just out of hand,” she said. “I do understand that Pastor Steve is upset about the school closing, but he didn’t need to go that extreme.”
According to health department records, at least three people complained to the state after Phillips sent a memo explaining a teacher at the day care tested positive while also telling them not to trust federal health authorities. One said his girlfriend, an employee, was specifically told not to wear a mask.
“Since the management believe COVID-19 to be some sort of government conspiracy, they failed to take this seriously,” another person wrote to the health department in an email, attaching Phillips’s initial letter.
Phillips and his wife refused to cooperate with investigators who visited the facility two days later, even denying that an unmasked teacher tested positive after investigators already confirmed that with the teacher herself.
Another woman who complained, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution against her family, told The Post her sister’s children attended the day care, and after her sister showed her the pastor’s initial letter to parents, she was “mortified.” Her niece has asthma, she said. She felt like she had to do something.
“I’m a health-care worker,” she said. “I am having to protect myself on a daily basis. .?.?. It’s not only that they’re not taking precautions, but you know someone tested positive and you’re just going on business as usual? You’re notifying the parents and telling them, don’t worry about this, it’s a hoax?”
Her sister, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal, told The Post that she believed her kids were safe because classroom capacity at Fairlawn Christian Academy was limited to fewer than 10 kids.
She and Sewell said that two months ago, the school shut down for seven days after a student tested positive for the coronavirus, leading them to believe the school was taking precautions.
Sewell said the pastor telling everyone that coronavirus is a “LIE straight from hell” was especially offensive. She knows people, like her best friend’s grandfather, who died of covid-19.
“How do you explain to your best friend that the pastor of this school thought this whole coronavirus was a hoax?” she said. “It’s just sad.”
Meagan Flynn,
Sarah Pulliam Bailey and
Michelle Boorstein
November 19, 2020 at 9:08 PM EST
The complaints started to mount after a teacher who tested positive for the coronavirus had been at work maskless — working with toddlers and infants.
In fact, no one was wearing masks at Little Lambs Christian Dayschool, the day care at Fairlawn Christian Academy in Radford, according to Virginia Department of Health records.
But on Monday, Pastor Stephen Phillips sent a memo to parents, telling them that there was nothing to be worried about — and that they shouldn’t trust federal health authorities.
“Don’t allow yourself to be controlled and manipulated by media hype and government propaganda,” the pastor wrote, according to a copy obtained by The Washington Post and which is also referenced in state records. “Please do your own research!”
Now, after parents and even one employee’s boyfriend complained to the state health department, Phillips’s apparent refusal to comply with virus restrictions has led to swift consequences.
Following an immediate investigation, the state suspended Little Lambs Christian Dayschool’s food-service permit, which Noelle Bissell, director of the New River Health District, said is the only regulatory authority health officials have over establishments that flout coronavirus restrictions.
The state took this step only after Phillips told investigators he would refuse to follow public health guidelines. The investigation unfolded this week as Virginia and much of the nation are seeing record surges in coronavirus cases, while hospitals are preparing for influxes of patients.
All Phillips has to do is agree to follow the rules to get his permit back, the state said — but in another letter to parents he made clear he does not intend to do so. Instead, he said that the state shut down his entire business, including Fairlawn Christian Academy, and that parents should “convey their indignation to the Montgomery County Health Department and Governor Ralph Northam.”
“Because we have refused to adopt state mandated Covid guidelines, we have had our license to do business rescinded,” Phillips wrote in a letter provided to The Post by a parent. He added: “If you are not already aware, the entire Covid pandemic has been a hoax to establish an the anti-Christ Kingdom on earth.”
Phillips and other staff members at Fairlawn Christian Academy did not respond to multiple requests for comment Thursday.
Bobby Parker, a spokesman for the state health department, said Phillips’s claim that the state shuttered the school and day care is a misrepresentation of the department’s actions. Only the day care’s food permit is temporarily suspended — but will be restored if Phillips complies with restrictions.
The food permit “is not permanently cast aside,” he said. “There is an opportunity for it to be restored if there’s a demonstration of compliance” with Northam’s executive orders requiring masks and social distancing within businesses.
Parker said he was not aware of any other legal actions the state was taking against the business that could lead to it being shut down. The Virginia Department of Social Services, which oversees child-care facilities, could not be reached for comment Thursday evening. Online DSS records show Little Lambs day care is exempt from licensing because it is a religious facility. It has a capacity of 95 kids, ages 1 month old to under 13.
The decision by Phillips and his wife, Patrice Phillips, to close both the day care and Christian school has left parents scrambling to find new schooling and child-care options.
As a single mom, Chelsea Sewell, 28, was devastated to learn that the school was closing. Her 6-year-old daughter Marlee had been part of the day care since she was 2 and started attending the Christian school this year to avoid virtual learning in the public school system.
Sewell said she didn’t think it was a health risk to put her daughter in school, but she does believe covid-19 is “100 percent real.”
“This letter is just out of hand,” she said. “I do understand that Pastor Steve is upset about the school closing, but he didn’t need to go that extreme.”
According to health department records, at least three people complained to the state after Phillips sent a memo explaining a teacher at the day care tested positive while also telling them not to trust federal health authorities. One said his girlfriend, an employee, was specifically told not to wear a mask.
“Since the management believe COVID-19 to be some sort of government conspiracy, they failed to take this seriously,” another person wrote to the health department in an email, attaching Phillips’s initial letter.
Phillips and his wife refused to cooperate with investigators who visited the facility two days later, even denying that an unmasked teacher tested positive after investigators already confirmed that with the teacher herself.
Another woman who complained, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution against her family, told The Post her sister’s children attended the day care, and after her sister showed her the pastor’s initial letter to parents, she was “mortified.” Her niece has asthma, she said. She felt like she had to do something.
“I’m a health-care worker,” she said. “I am having to protect myself on a daily basis. .?.?. It’s not only that they’re not taking precautions, but you know someone tested positive and you’re just going on business as usual? You’re notifying the parents and telling them, don’t worry about this, it’s a hoax?”
Her sister, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal, told The Post that she believed her kids were safe because classroom capacity at Fairlawn Christian Academy was limited to fewer than 10 kids.
She and Sewell said that two months ago, the school shut down for seven days after a student tested positive for the coronavirus, leading them to believe the school was taking precautions.
Sewell said the pastor telling everyone that coronavirus is a “LIE straight from hell” was especially offensive. She knows people, like her best friend’s grandfather, who died of covid-19.
“How do you explain to your best friend that the pastor of this school thought this whole coronavirus was a hoax?” she said. “It’s just sad.”
Nov 16th Little Lambs Daycare's letter to 'reassure' parents
Nov 17th Little Lambs informs parents they are shutting down rather than COMPLY
Lurdan
old wave
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Covid 'conspiracy theory' leaflets sent to homes
Wales' health minister calls the flyer "really worrying", saying 1.3 million people have died.
www.bbc.co.uk
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
There may be a riposte to that here. It was written in June, and essentially makes the point that the pandemic is quite multi-factorial, so attempts to pin down one major cause are not a solution - rather practical policies which enjoy community support.Covid 'conspiracy theory' leaflets sent to homes
Wales' health minister calls the flyer "really worrying", saying 1.3 million people have died.www.bbc.co.uk
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
21 year old German COVID denier in Germany compares herself to Sophie Scholl (21 year old German anti-Nazi martyr); steward quits in protest, calling it idiocy and saying her comparison trivialises the Holocaust. Steward hands in his hi-viz vest and is escorted away; speaker has a cry, throws down mic and stalks off.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
I guess the Scholl comparison was his crystal skull.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Keanu Reeves spills the beans:
editor
hiraethified
Did he actually say that?
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
maomao
普費斯
Today I heard from a covid conspiracy idiot that 'the vaccine is a hoax, it won't stop you getting the virus and it won't stop you spreading the virus'. Which to me suggests that he thinks it does something though he did also call it a 'sugar water placebo' to be fair. Anyone got any idea what this one's about? It was his oddest outburst yet. Have had lots of 'silly lockdown' and 'silly masks' (which he doesn't wear) stuff but he previously believed that it was at least a real virus.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
fify
Aiui (one of) the vaccine(s) work/are currently thought to work by stopping you getting ill when you're infected, rather than actually stopping you from catching the virus or passing it on to others.
prunus
Tick tock.
These things you are hearing are I suspect untrue.
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