Corbyn & Cabinet in the Media

[Hocus Eye.]

I am heartily sick of this MarrMarrk character. He doesn't seem to be saying anything just posting attachment links to Twitter for example. He has obviously not read the rules of this forum. That might be a good thing because it means that he can be barred if anyone can be bothered. The thread title is about Corbyn and his cabinet in the media, that is of interest but not just giving space to people who want to rubbish Corbyn.

 

[ViolentPanda]

But you didn't, and wouldn't. And the reason you didn't and wouldn't is because of not-very-well-hidden homophobia.

Yes, you're right. It must be that I'm a homophobe, mustn't it? There couldn't possibly be any other reason for using Mandelson as an exemplar of neoliberalism. Certainly not, for example, his actions in having clause 4 of the Labour constitution changed, his hobnobbing with bankers and oligarchs - and even banker-oligarchs such as Nathan Rothschild (oh look,I mentioned Nat Rothschild. I must be an anti-Semite, as well as a homophobe!) - or his own beyond-the-call-of-duty acquisitiveness, which almost eclipsed that of Blair himself.
As I said, nice try, but this isn't the student union. Shouting "homophobe" only works on actual proof, not on supposition, or on your personal interpretation of what someone says or writes.
Must try harder.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I am heartily sick of this MarrMarrk character. He doesn't seem to be saying anything just posting attachment links to Twitter for example. He has obviously not read the rules of this forum. That might be a good thing because it means that he can be barred if anyone can be bothered. The thread title is about Corbyn and his cabinet in the media, that is of interest but not just giving space to people who want to rubbish Corbyn.

The Labour right feel they have an existential duty to rubbish Corbyn, though. You might say that Corbyn exemplifies all the attributes that they have stripped from themselves - ideas about social justice, equality of outcome (as opposed to the chimera of "equality of opportunity"), an economy that isn't in thrall to the City of London and is - shock, horror - productive of value and of jobs.
I can see all this stuff, and I'm neither "left-wing" or a Labour supporter.

 

[gosub]

Corbyn didn't consult Shadow Business Secretary over controversial business policy idea - Spectator Blogs

If thats true, that's doubly bad, as well as treading on her shadow cabinet toes, shes supposed to be in charge of setting policy

 

[KeeperofDragons]

I wish MarkyMarrk would just sod off & leave the rest of us to get on with the discussion as he has nothing to add to the debate & I for one am totally pissed off with his incessant whining.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Corbyn didn't consult Shadow Business Secretary over controversial business policy idea - Spectator Blogs

If thats true, that's doubly bad, as well as treading on her shadow cabinet toes, shes supposed to be in charge of setting policy

I notice that you did not mention this paragraph in the same article.

it is normal for the Shadow Cabinet member responsible for a policy area to at least be notified before an announcement, but Corbyn’s aides argued that he was not announcing any set policy. His spokesman said: ‘These weren’t policy announcements, just floating ideas for discussion.’

You cannot assume that the Spectator is a neutral observer.

 

[ska invita]

How did Corbyns trip to Dunkirk/Calais come across on the media? Anyone have an opinion? I havent seen any of it, just read a basic write up, but it seems to have a got a lot coverage

 

[gosub]

I notice that you did not mention this paragraph in the same article.

You cannot assume that the Spectator is a neutral observer.

cos it wouldn't make any difference, you'd still be pissed of it it was floated to fabians before you had any idea.
I said if its true.

 

[MarkyMarrk]

The thread title is about Corbyn and his cabinet in the media, that is of interest but not just giving space to people who want to rubbish Corbyn.

I'm writing about Corbyn and his cabinet in the media. Twitter is part of the media. Just because you don't agree with what I write, doesn't mean it's not allowed.
Calling for those who disagree to be purged is pretty typical of C---------s as well.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Calling for those who disagree to be purged is pretty typical of C---------s as well.

Chuggers?

 

[laptop]

Chuggers?

Christadelphians?

 

[Kaka Tim]

Cromwellians?

 

[teqniq]

Crumpets? Hmmmmm crumpets.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Crumpets? Hmmmmm crumpets.

I notice you can now get crumpets in Costa Coffee. They make for a change from teacakes.

 

[teqniq]

I use local coffee houses on occasion so have not observed this phenomenon.

 

[Tankus]

Corbyn didn't consult Shadow Business Secretary over controversial business policy idea - Spectator Blogs

If thats true, that's doubly bad, as well as treading on her shadow cabinet toes, shes supposed to be in charge of setting policy

The Eagles just seem to be "window dressing" and well out of the loop

 

[DotCommunist]

they can check out any time they like but they will never leave. Stabbing corbyn with their steelen knives etc etc

 

[agricola]

Corbyn didn't consult Shadow Business Secretary over controversial business policy idea - Spectator Blogs

If thats true, that's doubly bad, as well as treading on her shadow cabinet toes, shes supposed to be in charge of setting policy

The worst thing about that was its a daft proposal; he should have highlighted how dividends have utterly failed to keep pace with executive pay in the same companies.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

But you didn't, and wouldn't. And the reason you didn't and wouldn't is because of not-very-well-hidden homophobia.

Oh no, believe me he would.

The idea that vp would hold back from insulting you by comparing you to some piece of clothing used by Thatcher if that's what he thought was the right thing is laughable.

 

[Libertad]

Can you try this without the homophobia please? It is objectionable and beneath you (I hope. I suggest so on the limited evidence I have).

VP the well known homophobe, it's about time someone called him on this. Good work, you fraggle.

 

[ska invita]

How did Corbyns trip to Dunkirk/Calais come across on the media? Anyone have an opinion? I havent seen any of it, just read a basic write up, but it seems to have a got a lot coverage

Looking at some headlines this morning it looks like the right wing press are trying to spin it as Corbyn says Let Them All In...

 

[Pickman's model]

This is typical of the attitude of Corbynistas:

i did ask for an opinion which wouldn't make you an object of derision. this ^^ does make you an object of derision.

 

[nino_savatte]

I'm writing about Corbyn and his cabinet in the media. Twitter is part of the media. Just because you don't agree with what I write, doesn't mean it's not allowed.
Calling for those who disagree to be purged is pretty typical of C---------s as well.

That's a rather selective view imo.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm writing about Corbyn and his cabinet in the media. Twitter is part of the media. Just because you don't agree with what I write, doesn't mean it's not allowed.
Calling for those who disagree to be purged is pretty typical of C---------s as well.

it's a word you can't spell, isn't it?

 

[nino_savatte]

Am I not allowed to type my opinion, because some can't argue with it?

Stop playing the injured party, it's undignified.

 

[YouSir]

Stop playing the injured party, it's undignified.

But how would people know about the malicious Corbyn supporters brutally oppressing his opinion if he didn't give his opinion about them doing it?

 

[Pickman's model]

But how would people know about the malicious Corbyn supporters brutally oppressing his opinion if he didn't give his opinion about them doing it?

everyone brutally oppresses his opinion because no one likes to read contemptible drivel.

 

[nino_savatte]

Corbyn supporters

Corbynistas, surely?

 

[nino_savatte]

The worst thing about that was its a daft proposal; he should have highlighted how dividends have utterly failed to keep pace with executive pay in the same companies.

Shit-stirring Isabel Hardman.

 

[teqniq]

Interesting. I presume this is the same report in the linked articles:

Labour seen as 'indistinguishable from the Tories' to Scottish voters, leaked internal report warns

The Scottish Labour party is seen as “indistinguishable from the Conservatives” to voters north of the border, a leaked report commissioned by the party has found.

The previously unreleased Mattinson Report, commissioned by Labour and leaked to ITV News, says voters in England do not know what the party stands for....

Revealed: Secret report criticises Jeremy Corbyn's 'appalling' Labour for failing to 'atone for its past'

A secret Labour report into why the party lost the general election suggests that the party is heading in the wrong direction under Jeremy Corbyn.

The unpublished ‘Emerging from the Darkness’ report warns that "Labour negatives are deep and powerful".

It comes as sacked shadow frontbencher Michael Dugher was urged by a Labour MP to launch a "suicide bomb mission" to rid Labour of its leader.

The report, obtained by ITV’s Robert Peston, says crucial swing voters see the party as "nice" but "in thrall to the undeserving" and "in denial" about its "appalling" track record on the economy"....