It's not their gender uniformity that's the problem. It's their class uniformity. Maybe it's illegible to Brits, but that's what strikes an American--they're all from identical class backgrounds.
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Silas Loom
Man with glasses
I can’t be bothered to argue the toss with a madman about whether social class can be divined from the information in that photograph, or whether Americans could do so better than Brits. Nor should you be encouraged any more in derailing a quite useful thread about the media landscape.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
But you're British, aren't you?
I believe that the UK MSM suffers from a similar class uniformity, and also from a similar blindness to that uniformity. Basically it's all run by poshboys and poshgirls, but because everyone they've ever met is from the same background, they don't even notice. And they wouldn't see anything wrong with it if they did. And I think you're one of them.
editor
hiraethified
Right. If you ever claim to speak on behalf on all Americans one more time you will be banned forever.
As a trolling technique, it's on a piss-poor par with 'My PM box is full of messages of support" and I've had enough.
hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
Smith, Wellesley or Williams imho.This one's particularly objectionable:
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You can just TELL she went to Oxford, innit.
Oh alright. Can I still do the Welsh though?
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Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Thing is yes the mainstream UK media does have a degree of class uniformity, but so do the grifters you think are telling truth to power. For the most part it isn't horny-handed sons and daughters of toil who are buying expensive camera equipment and spending eight hour shifts bollocking about on Youtube, or shouting the odds on Gbeebies, it's middle class blokes. The grifterverse is generally about the least diverse collection of babbling fuckwits it's possible to find. Jacob Rees Mogg and Nigel Farage are leading lights and about as posh as it gets. Beyond a handful of useful idiots like Suella Braverman it's a resolutely white space.
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8ball
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8ball
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Would that be different at, say, Vice magazine?
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
How can you tell their class uniformity from that picture? Or is it the fact that they are working as journalists that defines their class?
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
The model is to throw money at it until you gain a big enough audience/user base that some company with deep pockets (and no clue) buys you out and then totally ruins the platform by trying to monetise it (aka ‘enshittification’). There’s kind of a golden period for users before this happens, but never any day to day profit to make it sustainable. The owners gain from selling out, not running it as it is. See Twitter as a recent example (subscriptions, more ads etc.)
Sometimes sites are bought out by those wanting political influence, same as it always was with newspapers. These will reflect or promote the world of people wealthy enough to do this.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
It's not uncommon for big money types to buy them out specifically with the intent of destroying their previous function - see Twitter, or the Sun. The latter being done with considerably more skill, of course. Vice was interesting because it was founded by massive bell-ends and improved over time.
hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
Bit of commentary from Simon Childs:
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RIP Vice: A Good Website Killed by Incompetent, Overpaid Bosses | Novara Media
As the new media post-mortem begins, don’t let inept, parasitical executives avoid some of the blame.
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How Vice Went From New Media Giant to Saudi Propaganda Machine | Novara Media
One former staffer alleged that Vice is using security concerns as ‘a shield’ to stop the publication of critical articles about Saudi Arabia.
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