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Snip from an xls file I have of DWP spends for October 2013 showing payments made for residential training. Reasonably small amount for now but I expect it to rise as the months go by.
residential training costs DWP spends.jpg
 
Quick snip of Welfare to Work totals for October. £85 million..

ESF = European Social fund for families with multiple problems
FSF = Equipment or fares for work paid to Matalan etc.


WWEG totals October.jpg
 
A friend who has had call to use the local food bank on occasion the last year or so (partly due to DWP balls-ups resulting in benefits being stopped, partly due to mental health issues making budgeting difficult) has sent me an e-mail suggesting a donation to the Trussell Trust for xmas.

I have a fairly major :hmm: as far as they are concerned, but on the other paw suppose they are better than people starving to death.

Does the panel think I should make a donation?
 
Check if there are any independent non Trussell franchised food banks in your area first that could make use of the donation. Food Share or similar. They tend to struggle to get good overall basics donated.

Edited to add.. They generally don't stick to the three visits only and are far more lenient in needing to be sent from an official body.
 
Frankie Jack said:
Check if there are any independent non Trussell franchised food banks in your area first that could make use of the donation. Food Share or similar. They tend to struggle to get good overall basics donated.

Edited to add.. They generally don't stick to the three visits only and are far more lenient in needing to be sent from an official body.
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Yeah, seconded Puddy_Tat - Loads of churches do ad-hoc food donations - Maybe give to one of them? Even if you're not religious (I'm not), churches do do a lot of good for people who are on their arses - Even though they shouldn't have to.

Or these if you're anywhere near Manchester. These aren't affiliated to any church or faith or owt like that (just coz it's called Mission, they aren't god botherers), they've been making it their business to help people out for well over a century.
http://www.woodstreetmission.org.uk/
 
From here (pdf link).

1.7
People can only be referred to Residential Training Providers by Disability Employment Advisers (DEAs). A DEA’s role will be as a consultant ‘gatekeeper’ and will be the main referral point for Jobcentre Plus Personal Advisers.
1.8
Trainees receive a flexible mix of directed and practical training, which could last up to a maximum of 52 weeks. The aim is to help the individual compete in the job market by gaining the skills and experience they need to obtain and retain employment.
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and on the subject of benefits:

Section 7
Training Allowances
1.Whilst participating in a Residential Training programme, trainees may haveexpenses reimbursed so that, in general, they are not disadvantaged byparticipation and are provided with some positive incentive to undertake training.
2.Trainees in training can receive a variety of payments from different sources. It isessential that trainees are fully aware of entitlements before they start training andvisit the Jobcentre to establish their allowance levels. Providers should despatchform SL2JP to the DEA as soon as a start date is agreed. Providers shouldensure that trainees have attended the Jobcentre prior to entering training.
3.Trainees in receipt of IB/ESA/IS can choose to move onto JSA or remain onIB/ESA/IS. All trainees in receipt of JSA will receive a training allowanceequivalent to their JSA plus £10 per week. Jobcentre Plus determines thisallowance; therefore any trainee with specific queries about it should be advisedto contact their Jobcentre.
4.Providers have an important role in starting and stopping the payment ofallowances. To ensure that payment of the allowance starts and finishes at theappropriate time, it is essential that Jobcentre Plus is sent form SL2JPimmediately trainees enter or leave training.
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Really not sure what to make of this. Nine facilities for conditions such as blindness or deafness. It's all a bit odd.
 
Puddy_Tat said:
A friend who has had call to use the local food bank on occasion the last year or so (partly due to DWP balls-ups resulting in benefits being stopped, partly due to mental health issues making budgeting difficult) has sent me an e-mail suggesting a donation to the Trussell Trust for xmas.

I have a fairly major :hmm: as far as they are concerned, but on the other paw suppose they are better than people starving to death.

Does the panel think I should make a donation?
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More importantly, do people get a choice as to where they can be referred?
 
Awesome Wells said:
More importantly, do people get a choice as to where they can be referred?
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In friend's case, not sure how it works (I don't like to ask too many questions about it) - I don't know if it's the sort you can just drop in to, or whether you need a ticket of some sort from the DWP / church or what.
 
It is my understanding, though i have (fortunately) no direct experience, that one needs to be referred. If there are places that operate otherwise then that's their business.
 
Aye. many here, including myself, were unable to get to the one 20 miles away and the local one starting up was seriously welcomed. I've not used it but I do go in and help out when I'm in the town and have a cuppa tea with them.
 
Jobless figures fall to a 4 year low.

Yeah, because that's a reflection of people moving into work, rather than people being corruptly moved off benefits. Makes me so angry that they are celebrating this stuff.
 
Hadrianus said:
It is important because it may affect benefit. Each thread is different - here are benefits , in other sections different topics. One article can be seen from different perspective depends on context. May I ask you personal question? Do you hold PhD from OxCam or from any other noble... uni? I have strange feeling you may do......or at least MA ;-)?
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answer the fucking questions ffs
 
8115 said:
Jobless figures fall to a 4 year low.

Yeah, because that's a reflection of people moving into work, rather than people being corruptly moved off benefits. Makes me so angry that they are celebrating this stuff.
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Loads of people being encouraged/pushed to be "self-employed" and claim WTC instead of JSA too. No more working than someone on JSA but not counted in jobless figures either. Plus everyone who is working part time cos they can't find full time work.
 
BigTom said:
Loads of people being encouraged/pushed to be "self-employed" and claim WTC instead of JSA too. No more working than someone on JSA but not counted in jobless figures either. Plus everyone who is working part time cos they can't find full time work.
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Plus people who just *manage* somehow. They manage on one tiny salary between two instead of that plus JSA. They borrow from their families. Grrr. I'm angry again.
 
McVague.. The Mirror.


Lots of anger at Esther McVey's comments during the food bank debate.

She said: "As we are saying, it is positive that people are reaching out to support other people - from church groups to community groups, to local supermarkets and other groups.

"In the UK it is right that more people are... going to food banks because as times are tough, we are all having to pay back this £1.5 trillion debt personally which spiralled under Labour, we are all trying to live within our means, change the gear and make sure that we pay back all our debt which happened under them."
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Frankie Jack said:
McVague.. The Mirror.
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Her behaviour during that debate was more than I could bear. I don't know what the outcome was, though I imagine the whole thing was pointless.

She is simply one of the most conceited, disingenuous, self aggrandising liars I have ever had the misfortune to see. I think she is worse than IDS. I felt physically sick listening to her dissembling; it was like some wannabe actress (which is what she is). Her complete misrepresentation of the economic crisis was so utterly biased and so full of bullshit as to border on the psychotic.

And wannabe actress is spot on; her delivery is painfully amateurish. She sounds like the try hard luvvie wannabe pub bore who tries to sound smarter than she is, but fails conspicously and painfully.

How the hell this fucking cunt, this nasty evil bitch (a word I do not like to use), ever got elected I do not know - and I'm not sure I want to know. She represents everything that is wrong in our society.
 
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