campaign against welfare cuts and poverty

[ViolentPanda]

did I say important? Nooo sorry mate, it is very important http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tel-NINE-WEEKS--costing-taxpayer-300-000.html

It's very important that the Home Office are such a bunch of dicks that they sold off the accommodation they used to own to house refugees who were waiting for their status to be decided, and now they have to pay rent instead?
That's not important, that's just the usual level of short-termist "let's make some money selling off the family jewels" thinking we've had from governments for the last 30 years.

 

[ViolentPanda]

very very important http://gyazo.com/102439a58d69a3aec549119930713c6a

Better, but still poor data use, given that you're not making any point except possibly "oh look, we're giving money to foreigners".

 

[Awesome Wells]

So 4:30pm we get a double header creature feature as both the right dishonourable IDS and his partner in crime Lord Fraud are scheduled for the selecet committee.

I wonder if IDS' pathfinding to the appointment will be as effective as it is for UC. I bet ten billion pounds he doesn't appear and sends along McVey or Penning or Devereux as a proxy.

Someone on the gaurdian comments posted this link to watch it live.

 

[Greebo]

<snip>I wonder if IDS' pathfinding to the appointment will be as effective as it is for UC. I bet ten billion pounds he doesn't appear and sends along McVey or Penning or Devereux as a proxy.<snip>

I agree about the likelihood of that happening, but I never bet on certainties.

 

[Jackobi]

So 4:30pm we get a double header creature feature as both the right dishonourable IDS and his partner in crime Lord Fraud are scheduled for the selecet committee.

Someone on the gaurdian comments posted this link to watch it live.

Here is a more direct link to the meeting:

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=14420

 

[Awesome Wells]

This is bollocks. It's going to achieve fuck all.

 

[treelover]

King of obsfuscation, he thinks he is too big to fail, the arrogance (and the delusion) is epic.

no one really going for the jugular.

 

[Awesome Wells]

I started watching and, for some crazy reason, I got the notion that somehow he might be humbled. Of course not. He's a cunt, that's all there is.

 

[Jackobi]

I'm trying very hard not to punch my monitor.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I'm trying very hard not to punch my monitor.

Self-inflicted wound. 3 month sanction, most likely.

 

[alonsoss]

Better, but still poor data use, given that you're not making any point except possibly "oh look, we're giving money to foreigners".

Wrong: I am making the point: Bulgarians and Romanians according to this data are OK.

 

[alonsoss]

It's very important that the Home Office are such a bunch of dicks that they sold off the accommodation they used to own to house refugees who were waiting for their status to be decided, and now they have to pay rent instead?
That's not important, that's just the usual level of short-termist "let's make some money selling off the family jewels" thinking we've had from governments for the last 30 years.

Wrong: the key word is? Serco , the private contractor, behind this wording is probably not very clever manager (as usually) who get his job by accident (as usually). There is many idiots up and down the country on such positions. Reading, writing , counting - primer school skills are big problem form many "managers".

 

[ViolentPanda]

Wrong: I am making the point: Bulgarians and Romanians according to this data are OK.

You might have made the point in yer 'ead, but you didn't make it in what you wrote.

As I said earlier, your tables don't even show which of those countries we have reciprocal agreements with (you're aware what a reciprocal agreement is, I take it?). Without doing so, the first table is meaningless.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Wrong: the key word is? Serco , the private contractor, behind this wording is probably not very clever manager (as usually) who get his job by accident (as usually). There is many idiots up and down the country on such positions. Reading, writing , counting - primer school skills are big problem form many "managers".

And a problem for you too, by the looks of it, because I'm fucked if I can work out what you're trying to say beyond "Serco has shit managers".

 

[alonsoss]

Interesting link. It's so badly done it doesn't even discriminate between nation-states with whom we have a reciprocal arrangement, and those with whom we don't.

I wonder why that is?

Also, no sources are given for the data, something even a hack would demand, before taking those figures seriously, even if they get past the whole "registering for an NI number to claim benefits" schtick.

Source? DWP - just look there is clearly given.

 

[alonsoss]

http://weownit.org.uk/privatisation

 

[alonsoss]

http://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/joe-guinan-thomas-m-hanna/privatisation-very-british-disease

 

[ddraig]

Welsh report slams lies about the poor
http://www.wcva.org.uk/about-us/news/2013/12/report-slams-‘lies’-about-the-poor?seq.lang=en-GB

Oxfam Cymru and the Church in Wales have published Truth and lies about poverty, which addresses six 'common myths' about those living in poverty. For instance, the report suggests that while 80 per cent of the UK believe that 'large numbers falsely claim benefits', fraudulent claims are in fact at historically low levels.

Another myth addressed is that benefit claimants 'have an easy life', yet the report has found that benefits 'do not meet minimum income standards' and have 'halved in value relative to average incomes over the last 30 years'.

 

[alonsoss]

http://ourfuture.org/20131208/inequality-a-sure-way-to-kill-a-good-time

 

[Greebo]

http://ourfuture.org/20131208/inequality-a-sure-way-to-kill-a-good-time

Obvious stuff is obvious.

 

[8ball]

Obvious stuff is obvious.

Maybe round these parts. I think (well, I know) a lot of people's fantasy idea of 'fun' places involves places like Monaco or Dubai.

 

[alonsoss]

Obvious stuff is obvious.

not for everyone

 

[alonsoss]

http://blog.policy.manchester.ac.uk...tability-the-rise-of-the-new-corporate-state/

 

[ViolentPanda]

not for everyone

For most people on a forum about "UK politics, current affairs and news"like this one, it is fairly obvious.

 

[alonsoss]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...4b47d8-5318-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.html

 

[ViolentPanda]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...4b47d8-5318-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.html

Wow, an article about rich Yanks and American attitudes to wealth.
In a forum for United Kingdom politics and current affairs, on a thread about campaigning against welfare cuts and poverty, when there's a seperate forum for international issues.

Are you wilfully ignorant, or naturally stupid?

 

[alonsoss]

Wow, an article about rich Yanks and American attitudes to wealth.
In a forum for United Kingdom politics and current affairs, on a thread about campaigning against welfare cuts and poverty, when there's a seperate forum for international issues.

Are you wilfully ignorant, or naturally stupid?

Every shit which is “born” in US has huge impact on idiots in UK either. Globalism was born and is coming mainly from US not from UK. (just to be clear , not only shit can be created in the US, good ideas as well)

Major ideas created in the US sooner or later are impacting “followers/ mapets?” in the UK and rest of the world.

Everything what is going on in US is important and has or soon will have impact here.

Are you imbecile or just ignorant, mejt? Orajd

P.S. I have strange feeling, you must be local "intellectual", do you - do not be shy mejt? Orajd

 

[Greebo]

Every shit which is “born” in US has huge impact on idiots in UK either. Globalism was born and is coming mainly from US not from UK. (just to be clear , not only shit can be created in the US, good ideas as well)

Major ideas created in the US sooner or later are impacting “followers/ mapets?” in the UK and rest of the world.<snip>

Are you imbecile or just ignorant, mejt? Orajd

P.S. I have strange feeling, you must be local "intellectual", do you - do not be shy mejt? Orajd

You claim to have a strange feeling; in my arrogant opinion, you have a strange smell of revenant. BTW if you're using dictation software I suggest that you change the setting from Polish or similar to English.

Incidentally, ad hominems and other methods of trading insults are the last resort of somebody who has only just realised that this is the deep end and dog paddle won't cut it.

 

[alonsoss]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/opinion/krugman-rich-mans-recovery.html?_r=1&

 

[Greebo]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/opinion/krugman-rich-mans-recovery.html?_r=1&

I'd be more interested in the links if you gave your own opinion of them. As it is, you seem to have next to nothing to say for yourself, Sweetie.