Ash Mahay
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Yes, downwards or stable for the past 20 odd years. I'd love you to explain how I'm massaging figures.
Youve answered yourself there. How is it downward or stable when (a) its greater & (b) people are getting less?
Im sorry the facts dont give you the answers you want but they are the facts.
So you don't want to include pensions in this, why bring them up?
Shockingly I don't think it's right that pensions have dropped so much in real and relative terms, what do you propose as a solution to this?
Its not just pensions either. If everything was at peak levels, if people werent subject to devious sanctions, what percentage of gdp would we be at then?
Think about that, go work it out & then come back & tell me Im not right.
You ask what do I propose. Ive said earlier, on more than one occassion, I dont have the answers but what I do know is that when you peel back the lies, the fudges, the spin & 60 years of manipulation that you find a system built for a world that doesnt even exist today & that the right solution is to actually start thinking of an alternative thats better.
Is that really such a bad thing?
I dont like to think that cutting benefits, for everyone, by quite large margins, over periods where cost of living has risen, in a system that does cost more is really the acceptable solution that many on this thread seem to think it is.
Perhaps if people let go of sacred cows, quit repeating out dated mantras & started actually thinking for themselves, acknowledged problems & started looking for solutions we might become a forward thinking country again.