Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Maybe not. Probs playing the player rather than the game. But he does ask a lot of questions that betray a lack of curiosity and gumption, which frankly irritates me.
campaign against welfare cuts and poverty
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
(April is usually the date to change financial shit btw cos of the tax year)
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
The WCA changes don’t take effect until 2025 so it’s for the next government to implement them, and they only affect new claims.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Only thing i've heard is 2025No.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
so that's Liz Kendall to worry about then.
teqniq
DisMembered
Kinda bit surprised that no-one has posted this yet. The government wants access to people's bank accounts who claim benefits including state pension and child benefit. The reasons for this is to reduce fraud apparently. I would contend that they would be better served inspecting MP's bank accounts regarding this. Anyway here is Richard Murphy on this:
The government’s desire to have access to the bank accounts of every benefit claimant – including pensioners – whilst refusing to take powers to tackle tax abuse – reveals malicious intent on their part
This speech was made by Labour backbench Sir Stephen Timms in the House of Commons on 29 November during a debate on the government's new Data Protection Bill. I thought it so significant it was worth sharing most of it, some more minor issues being edited out for the sake...
www.taxresearch.org.uk
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
I have no idea how banks conduct business and I have no idea how this scheme would work. Does the DWP intend for banks to hire dedicated staff continuously monitoring everyone's bank accounts? Do banks even know as a matter of course which customer's are claimants?Kinda bit surprised that no-one has posted this yet. The government wants access to people's bank accounts who claim benefits including state pension and child benefit. The reasons for this is to reduce fraud apparently. I would contend that they would be better served inspecting MP's bank accounts regarding this. Anyway here is Richard Murphy on this:
The government’s desire to have access to the bank accounts of every benefit claimant – including pensioners – whilst refusing to take powers to tackle tax abuse – reveals malicious intent on their part
This speech was made by Labour backbench Sir Stephen Timms in the House of Commons on 29 November during a debate on the government's new Data Protection Bill. I thought it so significant it was worth sharing most of it, some more minor issues being edited out for the sake...www.taxresearch.org.uk
Or is it that the DWP will contact a bank about Mr Smith and compel them to hand over their account details? What would they be looking for, I would assume any large payment into the account would be seen as suspect "received £2000 each month from The Business LTD"?
I just cannot see how this can work otherwise. Of course the DWP can just use any data to trump up any bullshit
God, imagine what the Tories would be like if there was some necessity to impose sweeping emergency restrictions on the entire country? Doersn't bear thought
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
It's what happens when "never" to be allowed return banned posters... return.
In fairness to confused posters, there's a lot of shit coming down from the UK junta... its difficult to sort through all of it. Saying this as an outsider with a lot of affection for the country.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Was watching this guy https://www.youtube.com/@StuartMcGoo
He was reporting some people are already experiencing the new changes. No idea how true that is, or how accurate this guy is but he seems legit.
He was reporting some people are already experiencing the new changes. No idea how true that is, or how accurate this guy is but he seems legit.
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
Kinda bit surprised that no-one has posted this yet. The government wants access to people's bank accounts who claim benefits including state pension and child benefit. The reasons for this is to reduce fraud apparently. I would contend that they would be better served inspecting MP's bank accounts regarding this. Anyway here is Richard Murphy on this:
The government’s desire to have access to the bank accounts of every benefit claimant – including pensioners – whilst refusing to take powers to tackle tax abuse – reveals malicious intent on their part
This speech was made by Labour backbench Sir Stephen Timms in the House of Commons on 29 November during a debate on the government's new Data Protection Bill. I thought it so significant it was worth sharing most of it, some more minor issues being edited out for the sake...www.taxresearch.org.uk
It's been talked about a bit on the DWP staff to be given powers of arrest for benefit fraud thread.
Regarding plans to change the Work Capability Assessment:
More on that from Disability Rights here:
WCA Reforms Will Reduce Claimant Caseload by 37 Times More Than It Will Increase Employment | Disability Rights UK
So... there are plans for the DWP to:
• tighten the Work Capability Assessment to make it harder for disabled and ill people to claim benefits in the first place
• have access to claimants' bank accounts
• contact airlines "to obtain travel details of where claimants are going and for how long" mentioned by LeytonCatLady here
Have some things to say but not on a public thread, except for "tired; angry; determined."
LeytonCatLady
Well-Known Member
When Universal Credit make a payment into your account, the transaction has a unique DWP code, so yes, banks do know which customers are on benefits and it would be theoretically quite easy for banks to set up AI that automatically sends monthly data to the DWP. Fucking outrageous though. Just because you're claiming a benefit shouldn't take away your right to privacy.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Reposting this here because I think it deserves a wider audience than the threa it was in (in threads and dreads).
This woman is brilliant, well worth 2 minutes and 42 seconds of your time.
Context. Chanel held a stupid fashion thing in Manchester the other day.
This woman is brilliant, well worth 2 minutes and 42 seconds of your time.
Context. Chanel held a stupid fashion thing in Manchester the other day.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
That would mean the DWP would have to dedicate a team or people just to process that data and have some metric in mind to look for. It's just unworkable, especially given current staffing
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
Three inpatients at an NHS mental health clinic have been told to attend jobcentre meetings or risk losing their benefits.
‘Seriously ill’ mental health inpatients told to attend jobcentre or risk losing benefits
‘Seriously ill’ mental health inpatients told to attend jobcentre or risk losing benefits
LeytonCatLady
Well-Known Member
Clearly somebody at the Jobcentre being dim.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I'm starting to see parallels with how DWP operate, and the unconscionable goings on at the Post Office.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Actually what i find most concerning about that story, in a way, is the attack on the CAB. They reportedly have a service within that hospital, and the DWP aren't listening to them. Further we know the tories have defunded this service. Without them standing up for the patients, they are fucked. The whole thing is abhorrent. However, is there not a legal case one could launch againsgt the DWP in these circumstances? Duty of care?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Duty of care? Don't make me laugh.
The DWP will undoubtedly consider itself bound by the OPPOSITE of a "duty of care" - no doubt they will spin it as their duty to the taxpayer to reduce the cost of benefits.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
we know that's how they act,but they at least pretend to have one so where possible they should be held to it. I mean if someone has a meltdown in a DWP office because of their condition then surely the DWP are accountable. There must be workplace rules to ensure this doesn't affect staff (perhaps through PCS comrades), or other claimants who may be present. The DWP has a duty of care to keep them safe.
I wish I had better answers.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
This is depressing
www.disabilitynewsservice.com
‘Devastating’ dossier shows DWP is in ‘state of crisis’
The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) is a failing organisation in a “state of crisis” and faces a “near collapse” of its benefits systems, according to a “devastating” dossier of evidence fro…
www.disabilitynewsservice.com
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
It's not accidental.This is depressing
‘Devastating’ dossier shows DWP is in ‘state of crisis’
The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) is a failing organisation in a “state of crisis” and faces a “near collapse” of its benefits systems, according to a “devastating” dossier of evidence fro…
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Jobcentres told to stop referring benefit claimants to food banks
DWP briefing says jobcentres should no longer issue ‘signposting slips’ over concerns about data privacy
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
UK Government Faces UN For Violation of Disability Rights | Disability Rights UK
www.disabilityrightsuk.org
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
I think I may have fucked up. I was going to post the form out tomorrow and get a proof of postage, but i've just learned the Post Office isn't open tomorrow. Normally it is, but it's under new management whove decided to shut until tuesday. It's due back by the 4th so I'm already cutting it fine. But it takes me a while to go through the form.
I could post it today or wait till tuesday for proof. I suppose I could take a selfie at the post box or something. I don't really believe it will go astray in the system, but having that proof would have been ideal. What ought I do here? They could stop my benefits if it's late, and if they do does that mean the whole claim is shut and the WCA process ends there and then?
I could post it today or wait till tuesday for proof. I suppose I could take a selfie at the post box or something. I don't really believe it will go astray in the system, but having that proof would have been ideal. What ought I do here? They could stop my benefits if it's late, and if they do does that mean the whole claim is shut and the WCA process ends there and then?
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
I'm gpionog to post this but I'm not sure I should because we all know the DWP are cunts, and posting this just seems to serve to cause anger about an unjust system. But nonetheless. This is just so dismal in it's oppressive banality - the casual tyranny of a mediocre uncaring system
www.theguardian.com
‘DWP are the real criminals’: carer in tatters after ‘brutal’ fraud prosecution
Vivienne Groom was threatened with a prison term despite a call-handler saying she did not need to declare her 16-hour a week job
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
For anyone in Manchester:
gmcdp.com
PIP Social
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Do we need to comment on Sunak's latest assault? It's not likely to come to pass unless Labour enact it. That means Liz Kendall. So not unlikely I guess
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
Multimillionaire Rishi Sunak has said he plans to end so-called "sick note culture."
That's a real cause for concern. But of course it suits the ruling classes to want to make things even harder for those people.
He wants to strip GPs of their power to sign people off work, "shifting responsibility for issuing [sick notes] away from GPs and on to “specialist” work and health professionals." (I'm going to assume he means those picked by the likes of ATOS and CAPITA, who have been - very often wrongly - "assessing" people for years now. There's always money to be spent on outsourcing, just not for the people who actually need it to live on.)
https://www.ft.com/content/c2ce5fc7-81d7-4f07-b339-c868bcd6df26
Rishi Sunak sets out plans to tackle 'sick note culture'
It's difficult for disabled and sick people to claim benefits as it is. If they stop someone's benefit, there is no government safety net.* He's lying.
I expect Labour to maybe make a few noises about the terrible Tories, then, as always, up the ante with their own plans to make life harder for sick and disabled people.
Sorry if this isn't very articulate or thorough - I'm exhausted and angry.
That's a real cause for concern. But of course it suits the ruling classes to want to make things even harder for those people.
He wants to strip GPs of their power to sign people off work, "shifting responsibility for issuing [sick notes] away from GPs and on to “specialist” work and health professionals." (I'm going to assume he means those picked by the likes of ATOS and CAPITA, who have been - very often wrongly - "assessing" people for years now. There's always money to be spent on outsourcing, just not for the people who actually need it to live on.)
https://www.ft.com/content/c2ce5fc7-81d7-4f07-b339-c868bcd6df26
Rishi Sunak sets out plans to tackle 'sick note culture'
It's difficult for disabled and sick people to claim benefits as it is. If they stop someone's benefit, there is no government safety net.* He's lying.
I expect Labour to maybe make a few noises about the terrible Tories, then, as always, up the ante with their own plans to make life harder for sick and disabled people.
Sorry if this isn't very articulate or thorough - I'm exhausted and angry.
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They’re really doing it.
Mental health focus of PIP disability benefit overhaul
Disability payments that help with extra living costs could be scrapped in favour of more tailored support.
www.bbc.co.uk
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