campaign against welfare cuts and poverty
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Frankie Jack
Not a bloke..
She gets herself out there to be seen. I'll agree with that. It's the message I, and others, don't get. The inner workings of 'the people/group/s that make up Sparty etc. are very academic and political.
Other people/group/s should be heard too. Aspects of these others are seen on many occasions though mostly in the London area, grassroots activists that attend DWP business in Westminster and wave banners.
Seeing ministers from W&P committee actually going to the North to hold meetings was excellent. There should be more of this.
Theyve sent whole green benches up to Scotland to waffle shit at us, so, they could send more dept groups around the rest of the country to see what's actually going on.
Spartacus/wow etc certainly doesn't get the big picture either.
Frankie Jack
Not a bloke..
I've actually started work this week so am out of Dumbcunt Schitts grasp for however long. I'll stay on welfare activism and watching like a nettle rash though. I'm only a head/body fuck up away from being back on the brutality.
The only opportunities that Smith has given to the poor is the opportunity to work for nothing, face sanctions and harassment, and for some to finally give up after such treatment and take their own life with absolute silence from the authorities and a craven media. One day the Guardian may report on the direct consequences of his 'reforms'
What do they not get about the big picture?
60% in arrears over the bedroom tax.
Nobody cares.
Nobody cares.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Yes, but only yesterday, I think. Why?
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
IDS wants a 5 week wait if you need to claim Universal Credit after losing (forw hatever reason) your job.
http://act.goingtowork.org.uk/page/s/stopthefiveweekwait
http://act.goingtowork.org.uk/page/s/stopthefiveweekwait
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
just long enough to have you in rent arrears then eh. what a fucking penis
Not just that, but that's 5 weeks on top of the time it wil subsequently take to process your claim.
And of course they will excuse it because of the big society good works performed by their chums in the private secotr - ie foodbanks.
That's the great tragedy of all this. The existence of that safety net, such as it is (and what else are people supposed to do?), is a gift to people like IDS and the local politicians who will just write a tickt to their local foodbank and pat themselves on the back the reforms are working. It's no solution at all.
Ironically in the past, without this safety net, people would have had to resort to the only kind of action that will unsease this system: riots and mass civil disobedience. People would have pulled down the gates and doors to get to their so-called representatives who would have no choice but to effect change or lose their fucking skin.
This is the most mealy mouthed policy plan. There is no reason for this at all (other than to benefit the pigs), but IDS will push it through if the tories win next year (can he do it sooner). That's a certain. Whether Labour have anything similar in mind or whether they woudl support it is less certain. Anyone that directly or indirectly contributes to returning people like Duncan Smith should be fucking shot.
BigTom
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IDS is thinking about the tens of thousands of pounds payoff he will get when he quits as an MP, and the golden handshakes of his friends. Anyone who doesn't manage to get a contract with such a clause, well that's just their fault isn't it, for not negotiating well enough...
fucking scum. Utterly ludicrous and won't happen but they are going to keep nudging this waiting time up and up. I can see a trap coming up too, for people who start arguing about the first 6 months being contributions based JSA, directly from what you've paid in, so why should you have to wait? which plays into what Labour have planned to make it something like 2 years max JSA based on NI contributions then nothing.
BigTom
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Been on the cards for a while I think, the Work Programme basically duplicates the work of the JCPs so was only a matter of time before the JCPs got privatised, something I've argued with PCS who still wouldn't oppose the WP. I think if the results from the WP hadn't been worse than the JCP we'd be seeing moves to privatise the JCPs already.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
It's worked so well in the US, too!
Jobcentres are going to be closed. Anyone can see it, all you've got to do is go in one, they're bareley recognisable even from a year ago. No job points, no phone points, no podium jockey at the door to take your papers and direct you where to wait. And where the phonepoints were hasn't even been painted over or owt - You can see where they've been ripped out. A JC now resembles an industrial unit in which a dodgy fly by night company has taken up temporary residence and hasn't bothered to wipe away the traces of the previous company who occupied the unit coz they know they won't be there long. Anyone can see jobcentres are being run down.
Jobcentres - Looking more and more like fly by night illegal firework shops. Well, let's hope it does bring fireworks.
Because private companies can't be worse than the JC+... oh dear!
Hard to believe but Matthew Oakley(policy exchange) has appeared to have done a balanced report on sanctions and their failings for the DWP
wonder if he trying to undermine the job centers.
and of course, there shouldn't be a sanction regime.
and Wintour even gives it a fair summary.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
A friend of mine didn't get in Support Group and ended up in WRAG. He has trouble walking and has arthritis lower limbs and they wanted him to be a security guard. Couldn't do tat, so they've now plonked him in front of a computer (which he doesn't know how to use) and on a typists stool. He's willing to learn to type, but can't sit on stool. Has asked for a fixed leg seat. They won't provide him with one. They also questioned him a bit but without reading his medical notes, and they noted down that he takes pills to ward off pain. He takes pills to EASE the pain. 
They didn't bother writing down everything else and that he's on 25 pills a day for various other things. Also asked him to sign what they had discussed but he didn't have his glasses to read what they'd written, but signed it anyway. Oh, she also asked him what his phone number is and seemed quite impressed that he could remember it off the top of his head. He has sod all wrong with his memory and he's old school, remembers numbers from the days everyone didn't have them stored on mobiles.
They didn't bother writing down everything else and that he's on 25 pills a day for various other things. Also asked him to sign what they had discussed but he didn't have his glasses to read what they'd written, but signed it anyway. Oh, she also asked him what his phone number is and seemed quite impressed that he could remember it off the top of his head. He has sod all wrong with his memory and he's old school, remembers numbers from the days everyone didn't have them stored on mobiles.
There is no defence.
I'd like to see the justification for dancing someone trying to make fellow claimants aware of their rights.
Betsy
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Face The Facts on Radio 4 last Wednesday...
Charity's New Mission?: Do More, Say Less.
Gagging clauses, threats of closure and self-censorship imposed through fear of losing funding - John Waite investigates claims by leading figures in the charity sector that they are being silenced. He hears of a "chilling effect" as voluntary organisations fear for their future if they dare to speak out about local or central government policy. Others, however, tell John that more needs to be done to limit political campaigning and that charities need to concentrate more on helping directly, those in need.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b049z4x2
Charity's New Mission?: Do More, Say Less.
Gagging clauses, threats of closure and self-censorship imposed through fear of losing funding - John Waite investigates claims by leading figures in the charity sector that they are being silenced. He hears of a "chilling effect" as voluntary organisations fear for their future if they dare to speak out about local or central government policy. Others, however, tell John that more needs to be done to limit political campaigning and that charities need to concentrate more on helping directly, those in need.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b049z4x2
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