miss direct
misfungled
Definitely. I didn't pay much attention to what they had when I viewed as I was just imagining it empty. I don't want to be left with rubbish (but a washing machine, fridge, and sofa would be useful just to start with.)
Buying a home and don't know how anything works
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Books, not bombs
Only if you could live with them. I imagine your sellers will just be trying it on and screwing you for a few more quid for something they don't want.
cybershot
Well-Known Member
Ask for the make and model number of anything so you can figure out it’s age. Offer a fair price based on its current eBay/charity shop value or if you could actually pick one up for free on Craigslist or whatever it is people use.
white goods don’t really cost much to move as you can just leave them outside and the scrap man will have had it by the next day. Depending on how easy it is to get from where it is to outside obvs.
white goods don’t really cost much to move as you can just leave them outside and the scrap man will have had it by the next day. Depending on how easy it is to get from where it is to outside obvs.
Boudicca
Seaside Queen
Or they may not. My sellers left the washing machine simply because the place they were moving into had one. There were no attempts to extract money from me.
cybershot
Well-Known Member
same. I inherited a free standing dish washer. It was only 6 months old.
Cid
Proper break this time
They don’t cost much to get rid of, but most homeowners aren’t going to be comfortable capping off the plumbing for a washing machine or sorting a hardwired oven.
bellaozzydog
rolling turds in glitter
i bought my house and the seller left everything in it (I think they were off to Spain) sofas washing machines all the furniture and a tellybox in every room. I’m still using most of it, just occasionally swapping it out as I go along
prunus
Tick tock.
You haven’t had the fixtures and fittings form yet have you? All of this should be listed there - for each item that exists there will be a tick for either leaving, taking, or willing to leave for a price. You negotiate (if you want) on each one, and the final agreed list forms part of the contract - ie they’re not allowed to leave anything you’ve agreed they’ll take, and vice versa. If they do leave anything you’d agreed they’d take you can charge them costs for storage/disposal - in theory at least. In practice it’s usually easier to just suck it up as part and parcel of all the general unpleasantness of the process and move on!
Fitted carpets are fixtures, and would normally default be left, they’d have to specially request otherwise. I’ve never heard of anyone taking them - they are fitted to the room they are in after all. Also I’d expect the lease may well have a carpets must be fitted clause, for soundproofing, as it’s ex-council (I think? It’s a common clause in flats anyway).
Curtains are fittings, so would default be taken, and they’d have to get your agreement to leave them (technically, see above).
Fitted kitchen units, appliances are fixtures (should be called fixtured units!). Free-standing are fittings.
Anyway you should have the form soon and all will be revealed hopefully!
miss direct
misfungled
Their oven is freestanding. Hope they leave that. Hope I get this form before the weekend.
Estate agent said sellers would be getting back to me re other items and thats how it worked when selling Dad's place. Those items were dealt with separately from fixtures and fittings.
Estate agent said sellers would be getting back to me re other items and thats how it worked when selling Dad's place. Those items were dealt with separately from fixtures and fittings.
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Books, not bombs
Sorry, this is mainly about mortgages, but might help some House price rises and how long to fix a mortgage: Q&A for first-time buyers
moonsi til
worked it out now!
Re fixtures & fittings when I bought my first house the vendor tried to sell me crap blinds , curtain poles & garden hoppers. I said no to all & she left them anyway. I did pay £100 for a small summerhouse that on reflection I could have said no as there was no way it was coming apart but they might have smashed it & I really liked it. When I sold this house the summerhouse with new roof & flooring came part of the house as did anything else that I thought would be useful & no good to me such as black out blinds , curtains , huge bathroom cabinet, Ikea PAX wardrobe system. I checked with the buyer about leaving stuff behind such as the wardrobe & she was happy /grateful.
Unless good quality /almost new I would be leaving for free or not asking much at all.
Unless good quality /almost new I would be leaving for free or not asking much at all.
Epona
Sonic: 1 Nov 2006 - 8 Jan 2022
It does vary a lot tbh, in some countries it is pretty much expected that everything will be removed by the vendor when they move out - including kitchen units, large appliances, and carpets (and while it may seem a bit petty, light bulbs). Here the custom is that carpets and fitted kitchen units might be included - but you are not necessarily buying those items in the house sale. Which is why it needs to be agreed upon rather than guessed at.
bimble
floofy
I didn't know that this stuff can be so complex! Was very lucky here, the people who sold me the house had inexplicably moved to Zimbabwe, shortly after they fitted brand new swish appliances & curtains and everything, so i just got everything as part of the sale without having to discuss it, which has been brilliant, there is nothing fun about buying washing machines and things like that and whilst I'm too mean to have gotten such fancy ones i do love them.
Cid
Proper break this time
It is in law here... If something is a fixture it has to be specifically excluded from the sale if the owner wants to keep it. That includes stuff like fitted carpets, fitted storage or integrated appliances. There are some pretty daft lines though - iirc a carpet has to be nailed down or otherwise fixed to count as a fixture. Though yeah, relying on the law over just agreeing is usually a bad and expensive idea.
Generally I think the best approach, particularly for a sale like this, is just to wait for the inventory. Plenty of vendors aren't going to be particularly bothered about extracting an extra few quid for a dodgy old oven and would rather the sale just went ahead without faffing about removing stuff... If there's something you particularly want you can always make an additional inquiry.
prunus
Tick tock.
Tbh this is very common - though just in case you have sellers with strong scruples who feel they have to remove things you haven’t specifically agreed to let them leave, something like “sorry no I don’t want to/ any afford to pay you for them, but I don’t mind if you want to just leave them” lets them do so in good conscience.
prunus
Tick tock.
Epona
Sonic: 1 Nov 2006 - 8 Jan 2022
I'd consider that under the heading of "might be a good investment to get new insulation put in at some point to reduce heating bills" - it wouldn't deter me from buying a place that is otherwise fine.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Not a problem, it's cheap and easy to sort out.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
Not a problem, it's cheap and easy to sort out.
depending on where you are, there are occasional grant schemes to get it done free / cheap
i got mine done free a few years back (although possibly through a cock up, i live in an ex council flat and something else later suggested that they thought i was a tenant not a leaseholder)
miss direct
misfungled
tumbleweed over here
annoying to go round the shops and keep seeing things I want to buy for the flat but can't because I don't know what the sellers are leaving, and I have nowhere to put anything in the mean time. Missed out on a perfect extendable table with chairs that slotted inside for £40.
Not sure if I'm meant to keep emailing solicitors or just wait for them to get back to me. They're waiting for the title deeds.
annoying to go round the shops and keep seeing things I want to buy for the flat but can't because I don't know what the sellers are leaving, and I have nowhere to put anything in the mean time. Missed out on a perfect extendable table with chairs that slotted inside for £40.
Not sure if I'm meant to keep emailing solicitors or just wait for them to get back to me. They're waiting for the title deeds.
bellaozzydog
rolling turds in glitter
My solicitor just emailed me, said, I think this is a commercial mortgage and if so I will need to hand it over to another specialist solicitor
ffs this is gonna run and run
ffs this is gonna run and run
cybershot
Well-Known Member
Give them a week since you last heard, but do arrange that 2nd viewing to try and get the sellers personal number so you can text them directly for updates every so often too, then you'll know if your solicitor is dragging their heels. Or go via the agent, but the agent will just spout shit.
If not buy to let or not being used for as a business, why does he think it's a commercial mortgage?
bellaozzydog
rolling turds in glitter
the property was un mortgageable by normal lenders so I had to stump up a big deposit and take a much smaller mortgage on it from specialist lender. they seem to do shit differently, a third solicitor (the lenders) is involved and I have no idea what’s going on....much like my solicitor.
my aim is to fuck the mortgage off as soon as possible as it is heinously expensive interest % wise
it’s starting to feel like my future may be on a park bench at this rate
