BREXIT Crunch time (part 38) WTF is going to happen next?

[Pickman's model]

Just listening to Beth Rigby Sky news saying first indication from the five hour cabinet marathon is May is going to push for MV4.

theresa may is general sir hogmanay melchett

 

[Pickman's model]

By ancient prophesy it is foretold that when May puts her deal to the Commons the same number of times that there are Police Academy films, it will pass.

if you look in isiah you find it mentioned that there shall be as many meaningful votes as there are grains of sand in the desert

 

[Brainaddict]

MPs push to prevent no-deal Brexit in law

I'm a bit puzzled by this. The EU have - fairly reasonably - said there is only a longer extension available if there is a clear Plan B about how to agree on a different sort of Brexit. So it seems to me that requiring May to go to the EU to beg for an extension is likely to result in a 'No' from the EU, unless it comes along with a Plan B, which May seems congenitally unable to formulate. Unless this legislation also lays out a Plan B and mandates how it will work, then it seems to me it will fail in its aim. I would like to think our MPs are bright enough to have spotted this, but I no longer have any confidence in their brains functioning correctly.

 

[Santino]

I'm a bit puzzled by this. The EU have - fairly reasonably - said there is only a longer extension available if there is a clear Plan B about how to agree on a different sort of Brexit. So it seems to me that requiring May to go to the EU to beg for an extension is likely to result in a 'No' from the EU, unless it comes along with a Plan B, which May seems congenitally unable to formulate. Unless this legislation also lays out a Plan B and mandates how it will work, then it seems to me it will fail in its aim. I would like to think our MPs are bright enough to have spotted this, but I no longer have any confidence in their brains functioning correctly.

It's a backdoor way to revoke Article 50, I would have thought.

 

[andysays]

It's a backdoor way to revoke Article 50, I would have thought.

As far as I can see, it only requires the PM to ask for an extension, it says nothing about what happens if the request is refused...

 

[cupid_stunt]

It's clutching at straws.

 

[Sprocket.]

As far as I can see, it only requires the PM to ask for an extension, it says nothing about what happens if the request is refused...

The inference I got from Yvette Cooper’s interview is they fear May won’t consider asking for an extension.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm a bit puzzled by this. The EU have - fairly reasonably - said there is only a longer extension available if there is a clear Plan B about how to agree on a different sort of Brexit. So it seems to me that requiring May to go to the EU to beg for an extension is likely to result in a 'No' from the EU, unless it comes along with a Plan B, which May seems congenitally unable to formulate. Unless this legislation also lays out a Plan B and mandates how it will work, then it seems to me it will fail in its aim. I would like to think our MPs are bright enough to have spotted this, but I no longer have any confidence in their brains functioning correctly.

i never had any confidence in their brains functioning properly agiven some of the godawful laws the vermin have passed but it's perfectly possible they will have seen this but persuaded themselves that when push comes to shove they'll be able to deal with it

 

[xenon]

Which option had the most votes last night. I thought May was thinking about putting that up against her WA.

Just do that and let's be done with this FFS.

E2A unless No Deal actually was the most popular, I CBA checking. But No Deal should be dead and buried.

 

[Wilf]

So, then, Yvette Cooper is our next line of defence against the gaping hellmouth, farage's army, virgin olive oil shortages etc. If Yvette Cooper is the answer, fuck knows what the question was.

 

[danny la rouge]

If Yvette Cooper is the answer, fuck knows what the question was.

Is it: “the executions have to start somewhere; do you have a suggestion?”

 

[Sasaferrato]

Which option had the most votes last night. I thought May was thinking about putting that up against her WA.

Just do that and let's be done with this FFS.

E2A unless No Deal actually was the most popular, I CBA checking. But No Deal should be dead and buried.

Customs union failed by a handful. If the SNP muppets had voted for it, it would have got across the line.

 

[Wilf]

Which option had the most votes last night. I thought May was thinking about putting that up against her WA.

Just do that and let's be done with this FFS.

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They should probably run it like the Father Ted episode where they had write down the reasons why they should get the parachute:

 

[andysays]

Nick Boles: Ex-Tory MP hits out at 'cowardly' cabinet

Former Conservative MP Nick Boles has accused the cabinet of being "cowardly and selfish" for failing to challenge Theresa May's approach to Brexit. Mr Boles, who quit the parliamentary party on Monday, said the PM had "misunderstood and mismanaged" the whole process of leaving the EU. And he told the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg no-one in the cabinet "had earned the right" to succeed her. The Tory Party "did not really exist any more", he also suggested.

 

[brogdale]

Nick Boles: Ex-Tory MP hits out at 'cowardly' cabinet

The Tory Party "did not really exist any more", he also suggested.

Guy's lost it.

 

[danny la rouge]

Guy's lost it.

The rest of what he said is completely correct, though.

“Former Conservative MP Nick Boles has accused the cabinet of being "cowardly and selfish" for failing to challenge Theresa May's approach to Brexit.

Mr Boles, who quit the parliamentary party on Monday, said the PM had "misunderstood and mismanaged" the whole process of leaving the EU.

And he told the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg no-one in the cabinet "had earned the right" to succeed her.”

 

[Sasaferrato]

I'm a bit puzzled by this. The EU have - fairly reasonably - said there is only a longer extension available if there is a clear Plan B about how to agree on a different sort of Brexit. So it seems to me that requiring May to go to the EU to beg for an extension is likely to result in a 'No' from the EU, unless it comes along with a Plan B, which May seems congenitally unable to formulate. Unless this legislation also lays out a Plan B and mandates how it will work, then it seems to me it will fail in its aim. I would like to think our MPs are bright enough to have spotted this, but I no longer have any confidence in their brains functioning correctly.

No deal is not in the EUs interests, I think they may huff and puff, but an extension may be forthcoming.

 

[andysays]

Guy's lost it.

That bit is a little OTT but, as danny says, the rest is pretty much spot on.

I haven't given up hope of a proper Tory split just yet...

 

[brogdale]

The rest of what he said is completely correct, though.

“Former Conservative MP Nick Boles has accused the cabinet of being "cowardly and selfish" for failing to challenge Theresa May's approach to Brexit.

Mr Boles, who quit the parliamentary party on Monday, said the PM had "misunderstood and mismanaged" the whole process of leaving the EU.

And he told the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg no-one in the cabinet "had earned the right" to succeed her.”

Think a tad of the messiah complex tbh...thought he'd solved it.

 

[danny la rouge]

Think a tad of the messiah complex tbh...thought he'd solved it.

Oh, that too. But there’s no solution.

 

[andysays]

Think a tad of the messiah complex tbh...thought he'd solved it.

him, not you, obvs...

 

[Sprocket.]

Wasn’t/Isn’t Boles best buds with Cameron and Osborn?

 

[Wilf]

Wasn’t/Isn’t Boles best buds with Cameron and Osborn?

Yeah, I think he did a bit of work for them. Temping Boles.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I’m beginning to think they aren’t even competent enough to manage to get a no deal Brexit.

 

[brogdale]

I take it he's sitting as an independent Independent now; rather than one of the non-independent Independent Group or ChanceUK or whateverthefuck they call themselves?

 

[danny la rouge]

I take it he's sitting as an independent Independent now; rather than one of the non-independent Independent Group or ChanceUK or whateverthefuck they call themselves?

Do we have consensus on what to call them yet?

 

[brogdale]

Do we have consensus on what to call them yet?

Aside from the obvious?

 

[danny la rouge]

I take it he's sitting as an independent Independent now; rather than one of the non-independent Independent Group or ChanceUK or whateverthefuck they call themselves?

The new updated article mentions he was deselected earlier this month. I hadn’t realised that. It may be relevant.

 

[danny la rouge]

Aside from the obvious?

Yeah, but that wouldn’t be specific.

 

[brogdale]

The new updated article mentions he was deselected earlier this month. I hadn’t realised that. It may be relevant.

Nah, he was only deselected by his local association...he was still at liberty to take the tory whip in Parliament...that's how they roll.