Boris Johnson tests positive for Covid-19

[xes]

Hmm, not sure that's entirely true depending on the definition of 'high office' of course. It seemed almost trendy for your health minister to get it when this first started.

Nadine Dorries, Health Minister, was the first to get it here. Showing her first symptoms on the day she had a meeting with Johnson...

Coronavirus: Health minister Nadine Dorries tests positive

Nadine Dorries is self-isolating at home, while another MP says she has been advised to do the same.

www.bbc.co.uk

Doesn't Chris Whitty also have it?

 

[Pickman's model]

It was a bit of a shock to me to realize that quite a few people actually like Johnson. The outpourings of grief at Diana's death made me realize just how far removed I am from how other people in the UK feel. If he does die I wonder whether we'll get similar.

The grief at Diana's death was in large part two fingers to the rest of the royal family

 

[Aladdin]

I believe that. The hospital have said he's on 4l of oxygen flow, probably nasally.

Why is he taking up an ICU bed if he's only on nasal o2?

 

[platinumsage]

Why is he taking up an ICU bed if he's only on nasal o2?

Apparently he's only there as a precaution, so presumably not in an ICU bed - perhaps sitting in a chair trying not to get in the way or something.

 

[LDC]

Why is he taking up an ICU bed if he's only on nasal o2?

That's not completely unusual afaik. There's different levels of care in ICU, and not everyone in an ICU unit is tubed and ventilated. But like I said others know about that side of things better than I do. There's no doubt he's fucking ill though, maybe not critically so, but some people deteriorate very quickly and the ability to manage that efficiently is important.

 

[two sheds]

The grief at Diana's death was in large part two fingers to the rest of the royal family

Ah ok that makes sense ta. I do try to avoid finding out what's going on with the royals - a bit like the Archers I get confused as to which is which.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Mrs B has an academic interest in Michael Gove,

PhD in Cuntology?

 

[Pickman's model]

Ah ok that makes sense ta. I do try to avoid finding out what's going on with the royals - a bit like the Archers I get confused as to which is which.

The women have lamentable luck with men, the men have business difficulties.

 

[LDC]

Doesn't Chris Whitty also have it?

He's recovered and was back at the daily briefing yesterday.

 

[Pickman's model]

Why is he taking up an ICU bed if he's only on nasal o2?

Because he's an entitled pos

 

[two sheds]

The women have lamentable luck with men, the men have business difficulties.

Yep that works in the main for the Archers too.

 

[killer b]

PhD in Cuntology?

her area of research is the academisation of the British education system, so yeah more or less.

 

[ddraig]

Have you spoke to a union Marty? This is, it goes without saying, a fucking disgrace. Are you in London?

you think amazon allow unions? and if they did that this person would be a member?

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Desperate stuff.

Your 2. Starmer has been a member of the pc for three years, so dk where this privy council access coming from... The tories may want to share the blame. But they've left it rather late. Oh and the letter of 4 April doesn't mention the pc

If Johnson rolls a seven and then Labour enter a gnu or whatnot it will be too late for the narrative you suggest. Indeed it's too late now as God sent the cv but the tories let it out everywhere. More than 5000 dead, the economy in a desperate situation, and still no concrete moves to bring Labour in to share the blame. Don't think your sc really holds water, it's not really worked here or in the USA as you suggest, where it took a world war to get the economy out of the great depression. You may be thinking of the govt during WW2. But that relied on great alliances, on the Americans giving great assistance, on debts only paid off in recent years. I don't think a gnú will operate before another 5000 people have died and the narrative may well be it took 10000 people to die and the economy to fall apart before the tory party stopped putting party before country

Yeh nothing will go back to how it was before. But far from the parties being in lock step they're dancing round each other, with labour wary of being whipping boys like the Lib Dems were. The Labour leadership would have to be remarkably stupid not to think the tories might try to pin loads of shit on them.

On the PC briefings that comes from Starmer who mentioned it twice on Marr on Sunday. Johnson agreed his request for briefings in their call.

On your second point my argument is this: there is a growing consensus - accelerated by the election of Starmer - about the the type of steps and measures necessary to protect capitalism post the immediate crisis. I agree with you that a week ago a GNU looked remote for many reasons: their majority, their arrogant initial response and because Labour could conceive of GNU as a purely blame sharing tactic.If Johnson dies or is incapacitated for months then I think the likelihood of it radically increases because the SCS, the media and capital will increasingly see the need for one

 

[danny la rouge]

There's different levels of care in ICU

Yup. There’s all sorts of reasons to be in ICU. And to be fair, some of those reasons might be for reasons of observation. But nobody is there without good clinical reason.

 

[Big Bertha]

Like when mother theresa died just after Diana and her death was literally and finally on the itv news at 10

& Jeffrey Bernard I think

 

[killer b]

and if they did that this person would be a member?

I think even people you don't like should be encouraged to join organisations which offer mutual support against the bosses. It's one way that they may become people you do like.

 

[two sheds]

Mrs B has an academic interest in Michael Gove, and reckons that when he lies - which he does, a lot - it's never in definitive terms. So Gove saying categorically this morning that Johnson isn't on a ventilator probably means he's not on a ventilator. He also said, for example, that he's not aware whether Johnson has been diagnosed with pneumonia - which means he's definitely been diagnosed with pneumonia.

Sounds like a lawyer

 

[Smokeandsteam]

you think amazon allow unions? and if they did that this person would be a member?

The GMB are organising extensively in Amazon.

Unite are offering advice and support for any worker who contacts us about the Coronavirus and work. We are also flagging bad employment practises to HSE and via the TUC.

Not sure why basic solidarity and the offer of advice has produced your reply? We’d all like these employers organised wouldn’t we?

 

[xes]

I wonder if hospitals possess any pieces of kit which resemble ventilators, and perform similar tasks, but that are not, strictly speaking, ventilators.

/CT

An empty shell of a ventilator box type thing with someone sitting inside it making darth vader noises and saying beep every now and then.

 

[xes]

He's recovered and was back at the daily briefing yesterday.

aah, taa.

 

[xes]

What blood type is BoJo?

 

[ddraig]

I think even people you don't like should be encouraged to join organisations which offer mutual support against the bosses. It's one way that they may become people you do like.

I would LOVE them and their colleagues to be union members! That wasn't my point
I'm a FW for starters

 

[Favelado]

It was a bit of a shock to me to realize that quite a few people actually like Johnson. The outpourings of grief at Diana's death made me realize just how far removed I am from how other people in the UK feel. If he does die I wonder whether we'll get similar.

Despite his toffness, people can imagine having a laugh and a pint with him. Lots of people think he's a funny, decent bloke.

 

[BassJunkie]

The grief at Diana's death was in large part two fingers to the rest of the royal family

FUCK! If I'd known that at the time I may have taken part!

 

[ddraig]

Marty1 Join the IWW - Industrial Workers of the World (IWW)
A trade union for any trade, worldwide

 

[ska invita]

What blood type is BoJo?

cold

 

[killer b]

I would LOVE them and their colleagues to be union members! That wasn't my point
I'm a FW for starters

I think you would more fruitfully put Marty on ignore rather than insert yourself huffily into a conversation where someone is trying to demonstrate to him the worth of workers solidarity.

 

[BristolEcho]

I think even people you don't like should be encouraged to join organisations which offer mutual support against the bosses. It's one way that they may become people you do like.

I agree, but it does depend really doesn't it? Some people you definitely shouldn't invite in, or at least keep at an absolute arms length.

 

[ddraig]

I think you would more fruitfully put Marty on ignore rather than insert yourself huffily into a conversation where someone is trying to demonstrate to him the worth of workers solidarity.

"insert yourself huffily" give over!