Boris Johnson tests positive for Covid-19

[existentialist]

I'm intrigued by the quotation marks. Do you not think Boris is real?

Johnson is real. The affectation "Boris" is a nice bit of social engineering.

 

[SE25]

I'm intrigued by the quotation marks. Do you not think Boris is real?

I dislike people calling him that like he's their mate

 

[bimble]

He’s in intensive care , says the headline now. How long he’s been in there it doesn’t say.

 

[existentialist]

I dislike people calling him that like he's their mate

Yep, this. It's his brand. It's not him. He's "Cunt". Though, admittedly, he's "seriously ill Cunt" right now, and we should all trust and hope that our amazing national health service is able to bring him through, only so they can have lots of very pithy slogans should his lot choose to rip into them again.

 

[JimW]

Sorry for skipping the rest of what you asked, but I wanted to focus on this bit because of the 'die at home' bit of the conversation in this thread. Its been bothering me for weeks, that the UK response on this front is inviting many deaths I dont think I spoke much about it on the forum, I didnt know where to start its so grim, and I just couldnt stomach keeping posting all the news stories about individual cases.

Finally I have seen some focus on this in the press today.

Fears that people self-isolating with Covid-19 may seek help too late

Lack of monitoring for those in severe phase of coronavirus could reduce survival chances

www.theguardian.com

We got daily check ins, albeit local cadres not medics, when doing isolation in a tiny Chinese village ffs

 

[T & P]

Any word from Piers Morgan yet?

 

[8ball]

Looks like - a week ago had 'mild symptoms'

'Mild symptoms' is a very variable thing. Sometimes they mean it as we would understand 'mild symptoms', and sometimes they use it in the Covid-19 parlance of "not requiring breathing support".

 

[lizzieloo]

It's 50/50 once you're in intensive care (I've heard)

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Times don't change - it's the king is dead, long live the king.

It's about securing the succession, it's about having the replacement in place and with the levers of power in their hands before other potential claimants start circling and stirring up trouble.

Elizabeth I's corronation ring, with hacked off finger still attached, didn't arrive in Edinburgh 3 days after her death and before her death was announced just to curry favour with James I/VI...

There's a saying that you're best off in heaven 30 minutes before the Devil knows you're dead - it applies to power as well.

Now would be as good as time as any for you and your crew to stage a nice little coup. Get in there!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

On front page of BBC

Mr Johnson has asked Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab to deputise "where necessary"

?

For the really important decisions, come and ask me. I'll blink once for 'yes', twice for 'no', and three times for 'haven't got a clue'.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Sorry for skipping the rest of what you asked, but I wanted to focus on this bit because of the 'die at home' bit of the conversation in this thread. Its been bothering me for weeks, that the UK response on this front is inviting many deaths I dont think I spoke much about it on the forum, I didnt know where to start its so grim, and I just couldnt stomach keeping posting all the news stories about individual cases.

Finally I have seen some focus on this in the press today.

Fears that people self-isolating with Covid-19 may seek help too late

Lack of monitoring for those in severe phase of coronavirus could reduce survival chances

www.theguardian.com

This has been doing me in for a while now. So many people have reported that they have been told to stay home and that they aren't priority...people really don't think they are worthy of a hospital bed and are also scared that hospitalisation will mean their death.

 

[bimble]

So Raab is at the wheel as of now??

 

[Dan U]

This - also why do any of the hacks who recycle this not get exposed or at least refuse to pass on information from a "No.10 Source"? I mean it isn't as if this is the first time, or indeed the hundred-and-first.

They knew what was up, the question to Raab earlier about when he last spoke to Boris and the near unanimous raising of eye brows on twitter within minutes by loads of big political journos was them saying 'we've been on manners all day but the game is up'

Imo, anyway

 

[two sheds]

UK coronavirus death toll rises to 5,373 after 439 more die in 24 hours

Charities say older people feel pressured into signing ‘Do not attempt resuscitation’ forms

www.independent.co.uk

Herd immunity not working all that well so far

 

[PD58]

Let's not forget a la "the man who should not be king', Boris will be getting the very best support/treatment available, which in normal times would help to shift the odds in his favour. But these are not normal times and it seems that, as yet, we have no idea why some, eg the CMO/SoS Health, work through the symptoms but the PM and many others so far are not. I heard today of a neighbours friend who he saw 3 weeks ago and was a very fit bloke picked up the virus two weeks ago and died last week going downhill very rapidly in 24 hours. More and more healthy individuals are dieing and we have no idea, as yet, why.

As for his death - I'd much rather beat the shit out of him at the ballot box; far more pleasure than any virus as he would have to live with it.

 

[Pickman's model]

So Raab is at the wheel as of now??

The wheels on the bus come off off off all day long with the useless raab in charge

 

[SpookyFrank]

So Raab is at the wheel as of now??

No Johnson is still in charge and running the show via the medium of, um, a medium.

 

[existentialist]

The wheels on the bus come off off off all day long with the useless raab in charge

Look on the bright side: it might have been Chris Grayling.

 

[kabbes]

What’s the betting that Gove is behind this whole thing?

 

[Pickman's model]

Look on the bright side: it might have been Chris Grayling.

depending how many tory ministers die it may yet come to that

 

[Raheem]

For his sake I hope he’s not on a Dyson ventilator, their hoovers are bobbins, can’t imagine the ventilators are any better.

They probably suck.

 

[existentialist]

depending how many tory ministers die it may yet come to that

I had that thought immediately I had made my post. I forswore to distress Urban further by mentioning it, though...

 

[tim]

Though maybe if the Queen goes quickly too he'd get lost in the backwash.

She looked very chipper yesterday; perhaps, because she had been beginning to resent Johnson's attempts, in all those press conferences, to take on her reassuring national leader in a crisis role: Saxe-Coburg-Gotha Schadenfreude.

 

[elbows]

This has been doing me in for a while now. So many people have reported that they have been told to stay home and that they aren't priority...people really don't think they are worthy of a hospital bed and are also scared that hospitalisation will mean their death.

Meanwhile the press became obsessed with tests, which was understandable, PPE which is highly understandable, but more recently green shoots and exit strategies. They really must focus on this issue of people not being hospitalised when needed more instead, its weeks late already and there is still time to make a difference, whereas talk of exit strategies can easily wait a week.

Johnson could actually end up saving lives if various aspects of what has happened to him help sustain a wider conversation about people deteriorating rapidly and needing critical care.

 

[bimble]

This season finale is a bit much.

 

[gosub]

Look on the bright side: it might have been Chris Grayling.

No. No it couldn't.

 

[frogwoman]

I despise the guy but it's not just that he's ill, it's also the fact that rather than us or even the politicians, SARS-COV-2 seems to be in control of the bus right now

 

[Pickman's model]

This season finale is a bit much.

It isn't the season finale, that's some episodes down the line

 

[kebabking]

What’s the betting that Gove is behind this whole thing?

What, Corona virus?

 

[Saul Goodman]

Johnson is real. The affectation "Boris" is a nice bit of social engineering.

It's the same reason people tell kidnappers their name.