Border Farce

[existentialist]

So what’s your solution to this issue? (Apart from behaving in the very manner you slur me with - a red faced gammon)?

No, you're the one making the claims. It doesn't fall to me to propose valid alternatives, just to let you off the hook.

Off you go...

 

[Marty1]

You know what? I'm not going to serve you up any invective.

I'm shitted living in a world where people are so desperate to find a place to grow, breathe and be safe that people are compelled to take massive risks to obtain what you and I take for granted. I'm shitted that the same forces of inequality we are subjected to are amplified for refugees and migrants to a degree that's hard to imagine for us. But I'm also shitted that someone who recognises Bezos and the world you have to work in fails to make the most basic connections. You have more in common with those desperate (mostly) young people than you do with any of the political class.

But it's all just a game. Just a game. Like football. Which side shall I choose?

I don't really know what purpose or meaning posting on this site provides you. It can't be mental masturbation, evidently.

Yup, it’s a fucked up world alright.

And it’s getting more and more divided - your analogy is spot on regarding it being like football, loyalty and commitment to the team you support it seems like.

Why do I post here? Why wouldn’t I? I’m certainly not in an echo chamber online environment- I don’t see the point unless you don’t want to challenge yourself of get perspectives from people who may have differing opinions on a wide range of subjects.

I’ve also had a number of private messages from established members who have recommended I stick around (unless removed) on grounds that this place is worth it with a lot of good people here aside from those who shout the loudest/abusive).

I think my views aren’t too far away from many on here tbh.

Anyway, I’m signing off this thread as it’s clearly all over the place now.

 

[yield]

So what’s your solution to this issue? (Apart from behaving in the very manner you slur me with - a red faced gammon)?

Appreciate that you're actually responding rather than linking to dodgy youtube sites and that.

No more imperialist wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Libya or aiding and abetting wars in Sudan, Yemen etc that create these catastrophes.

An end to tax havens and the laundering of drug money, bribes and corruption. Coupled with decriminalisation of most drugs and prostitution.

Economic democracy and fair and proportionate taxes on the billion class like Soros, Bezos and Buffett. And decent provision of public services for those in need.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I’ve also had a number of private messages from established members who have recommended I stick around (unless removed) on grounds that this place is worth it with a lot of good people here aside from those who shout the loudest/abusive).

PM's of support, not heard that for years.

 

[brogdale]

PM's of support, not heard that for years.

tbf, zero is a number

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I’ve also had a number of private messages from established members who have recommended I stick around

 

[Ax^]

I’ve also had a number of private messages from established members who have recommended I stick around (unless removed) on grounds that this place is worth it with a lot of good people here aside from those who shout the loudest/abusive).

Plenty of good people shout the loudest when some slippery fash type cunts keeps posting on the boards
Odd you tend to appear on all these types of threads


Also Pm's of Support

 

[existentialist]

I’ve also had a number of private messages from established members who have recommended I stick around (unless removed) on grounds that this place is worth it with a lot of good people here aside from those who shout the loudest/abusive).

Yeah, well, I only said that because I thought you'd fall for it...

 

[Pickman's model]

I’ve also had a number of private messages from established members who have recommended I stick around (unless removed) on grounds that this place is worth it with a lot of good people here aside from those who shout the loudest/abusive).

it's rare to see this 2003 version of millions of pms of support

 

[eatmorecheese]

Yup, it’s a fucked up world alright.

And it’s getting more and more divided - your analogy is spot on regarding it being like football, loyalty and commitment to the team you support it seems like.

Why do I post here? Why wouldn’t I? I’m certainly not in an echo chamber online environment- I don’t see the point unless you don’t want to challenge yourself of get perspectives from people who may have differing opinions on a wide range of subjects.

I’ve also had a number of private messages from established members who have recommended I stick around (unless removed) on grounds that this place is worth it with a lot of good people here aside from those who shout the loudest/abusive).

I think my views aren’t too far away from many on here tbh.

Anyway, I’m signing off this thread as it’s clearly all over the place now.

Then why not engage with the salient issues? No problem with debate. That would be great.

But I don't think you are honest with how you frame your drive-by posts.

 

[Poot]

Good news, Marty1. Rather than just sitting about trolling, the opportunity has arisen for someone such as yourself to finally get involved with helping out with keeping those poor people from arriving here and being forced into low wage jobs, just like you were arguing upthread. Because I know that you were concerned.

Navy veteran captains Britain First boat deterring migrants

 

[Fedayn]

Is this prat rtwl's half brother? The sort of boring bastard who puts sham on the jukebox 5 times in a row imagining they're shaking up the straights. A proper billy bleach.

Whats's wrong with some Sham 69?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Good news, Marty1. Rather than just sitting about trolling, the opportunity has arisen for someone such as yourself to finally get involved with helping out with keeping those poor people from arriving here and being forced into low wage jobs, just like you were arguing upthread. Because I know that you were concerned.

Navy veteran captains Britain First boat deterring migrants

An ex-master of the heads, is he one of them
dick heads that were ‘patrolling’ the beaches looking for migrants as well?

 

[MickiQ]

Good news, Marty1. Rather than just sitting about trolling, the opportunity has arisen for someone such as yourself to finally get involved with helping out with keeping those poor people from arriving here and being forced into low wage jobs, just like you were arguing upthread. Because I know that you were concerned.

Navy veteran captains Britain First boat deterring migrants

Describing themselves as a private navy sounds somewhat grander than bunch of wallies with a boat, I presume that if they get in the way then the Border Force will arrest them which promises a few chuckles, extra LOLs if their boat is requisitioned to transport migrants to shore.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Describing themselves as a private navy sounds somewhat grander than bunch of wallies with a boat, I presume that if they get in the way then the Border Force will arrest them which promises a few chuckles, extra LOLs if their boat is requisitioned to transport migrants to shore.

Would imagine the Little Ships of Dunkirk are good, yet though they transported people fleeing from terror to the UK doesn’t trouble them, cos thicky racist and that.

 

[Athos]

Stupid cunt probably doesn't realise that, by putting himself there, the master of a vessel has an obligation under international law to render assistance to speed the rescue of persons in distress. They might have to rescue migrants or face prosecution!

 

[Ax^]

but you can always claim whilst you were sinking they all got a little boat happy



gets coat*

 

[Streathamite]

You can also add Libya that was destroyed by Obama, Hillary Clinton et al.

with emphatic, practically unquestioning support from Republican politicians in both Houses, and all across the USA

 

[brogdale]

Anyway, I’m signing off this thread as it’s clearly all over the place now.

Having sprayed all of his (blank) trolling ammo in this 'drive-by' posting frenzy, the perpetrator speeds off.
Yawn.

 

[brogdale]

And then there are legions of you. No idea at all about these struggles bar what you read in rags like the mail, looking down on them and churning out the bullshit these rags tell you to, all the while working like a dog for shit money with terrible working conditions, yet you have bought the bullshit they’re selling and stand on their side.

You massive fucking mug.

 

[A380]

Yet another disappointing case of facists looking like this:

Instead of looking like this:

 

[existentialist]

Having sprayed all of his (blank) trolling ammo in this 'drive-by' posting frenzy, the perpetrator speeds off.
Yawn.

 

[Pickman's model]

That's my line

 

[krtek a houby]

I’ve also had a number of private messages from established members who have recommended I stick around (unless removed) on grounds that this place is worth it with a lot of good people here aside from those who shout the loudest/abusive).

I think my views aren’t too far away from many on here tbh.

What, Hyperdark and Bollox?
Three brave travellers here, going upriver against the urban flow.

Well done, I'm sure.

 

[Streathamite]

As an aside: I’m fucking sick of seeing workers from all corners of the globe coming here for a better life only to end up being exploited to fuck once they arrive but be told they’re lucky to be offered 12 hour a day back breaking work.

Do you actually realise that that self-same exploitation lies at the heart of the ideologies (and in Trump's case, record of business practices) of the politicians and political organisations you lavish mst uncritical adoration on? That they support it?

 

[Streathamite]

It might not be his swansong - the ban's a temporary one.

oh fuck.
Editor; in general, I'm the biggest fan of your light-touch, let-debate-flow, modding regime.
However, some posters don't deserve that sort of leniency

 

[Streathamite]

Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning. Henceforth Bollox will meet equally well armed, and perhaps better armed tropes. Henceforth they will have to face in many forums that superiority which they have so often imagined they used without mercy against others, of which they boasted all round the boards, and which they intended to use as an instrument for convincing all other peoples that all resistance to them was hopeless....

oh, very good!

 

[Streathamite]

No, you’re being deliberately dishonest - the people we’re talking about are choosing to leave the safe shores of France by paying considerable sums of money to criminal enterprise - there’s a clear distinction.

Have you seen the conditions in those refugee camps? Hardly 'safe shores' - it's truly desperate.

 

[krtek a houby]

oh fuck.
Editor; in general, I'm the biggest fan of your light-touch, let-debate-flow, modding regime.
However, some posters don't deserve that sort of leniency

Maybe they do.

It's not like we have a vote on who stays or goes. All we can do is call offenders up on dubious postings, links and statements. Either they persist in their blissful ignorance or push obvious right wing nonsense.

Maybe, after a while, they might learn more and have more receptive minds. Or maybe just double down.

From coming here initially with naive, often woefully ill informed views on a number of political situations ... am certainly grateful that some posters had the deceny to have patience with my babblings.

Have learned a lot from urban. Inspired me to look harder and further than reactionary, tired shite and the cul de sac of liberalism.

Realized that urban is a font of information and a haven from the madness and misinformation out there. Which is why it irks to see the dishonesty from those who appear to get their briefings from far right media.

Or, maybe he genuinely has a lot to learn. Anyways, have spent far too much time concerned about what Marty1 says and does.

The courageous migrants risking their lives are far more important.

 

[Streathamite]

I’ve also had a number of private messages from established members who have recommended I stick around (unless removed) on grounds that this place is worth it with a lot of good people here aside from those who shout the loudest/abusive).

Thast old one, huh?
it's such an old chestnut - such a corny old bullshit line - that when Editor penned and ran a piece, waaay back, on the main body of the website, entitled 'how to win arguments on Usenet'....he cited it as one of the underhanded tactical stunts you should pull, in order to win those arguments.
In other words, that's an eighteen-year-old stunt.
At the very least.