purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
Ah okay, has felt a bit starker down here.
Birmingham Bin Strike//Care Workers news and discussion
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Ah okay, has felt a bit starker down here.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Heard Harborne and Edgbaston were getting more regular collections. Moseley Village always look like a hippy bombsite to me so I hadn't noticed the score there!
purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
Haha, it's got yet another coffee shop now, cos that's what we all need more of.
BigTom
Well-Known Member
I live in Balsall Heath and am experiencing exactly the same as you. I did not help the Balsall Heath Forum when they shifted some rubbish from round here, and I would not have helped you if I lived in Small Heath. Not to take stuff to the tip anyway, that is doing the binmen's job, ie: scabbing and undermining the strike. If you take the vans to victoria square and dump the bags outside the council offices, let me know, I'll come and help.
Otherwise I would say basically the same as the people you've replied to. If you want to help end the strike, put pressure on the council to drop their plan to cut the leading hand position and people wages by up to 25% iirc, ave £21k -> ave £17k.
My street has had two collections somehow, unless one of them was just before the action started.
cybershot
Well-Known Member
I'm sorry, but by moving the rubbish, you ARE now involved.
cybershot
Well-Known Member
This!! So much this. BCC are jokers.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Personally if I was a striking bin man who wanted the support of ordinary folk I'd skip the posh neighbourhoods not the poor ones.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
The workers are allocated strict routes by their bosses. This had led to workers coming under attack for 'driving past' rubbish and not collecting it.
Given the amount of scabs and apologists about I suspect they'd be in a disciplinary before you could say 'bearded broz' if they displayed your community spirit don't you?
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SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Presumably their bosses also told them not to go on strike though.
BigTom
Well-Known Member
Can't sack or discipline someone for going on (official) strike action though, but you can discipline them for not following the set routes.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Precisely. Refusal to obey a management instruction. Official strike action is a 'protected act'
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It doesn't work like that - you are given route numbers - and if route #13 is on the east side of the city you can't make a point of not collecting the rubbish that's miles away on the west. That would be up to those on that route - and if they are not at those posh areas at the stoppage time then they're not. when i was on the bins there was fierce competition to get the posh ones as there was plenty put out that you could salvage. Esp at xmas.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
That's exactly what's happening. Some areas have a near normal collection and some next to nothing because of the way management are running routes
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Are the strikers themselves drawing attention to this?
purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
That was my thinking about what was going on too. Hope my post didn't suggest I blamed the bin men in some way, just an observation from lots of people that that's happening.
Have you lived a sheltered life or something?
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
People taking their kids to hospital isn't strike breaking. But people volunteering to take on ambulance work, while simultaneously being funded by local business, would be at least slightly iffy, don't you think?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
It's a lot easier to make absolute moral judgements when you're not personally involved.
My FB feed is awash with lefty types condemning folk for cleaning up their streets. None of these lefty types live in Birmingham as far as I can tell, nor have they done anything to promote or support the striking workers' cause before now.
The residents in these areas have been put in a position where there is no good option, where some form of harm is done whether or not they take action. For someone to claim that they have glanced at the situation from outside and arrived at a watertight ethical judgement that everyone else should simply accept is disingenuous bullshit.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Of you go then and explain to these people that, while a few of their kids may get Weil's disease, it'll better for children in general in the long run.
I know quite a few Birmingham based leftwingers, and they're unanimous in their support of the strike (and have been for some time), and their condemnation of the scabs.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
So you wouldn't take your kid to hospital?
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
No.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
would they take their kids to hospital tho?
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
Ok then, just let the kids die.
yeah. but as has been noted numerous times in this thread, there's loads of ways to deal with any public health issues exacerbated by the strike that doesn't involve scabbing.
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