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Beating the Fascists: The authorised history of Anti-Fascist Action

Pre expulsion of the squadists the swp heavily printed Joe Jacobs My Life in the Ghetto which was essentially anti Party and pro physical force anti fascism. Post expulsions the book pretty much disappeared and was replaced by Our Flag Stays Red which emphasised political agitation and the party. Both are excellent reads btw.
 
First off let it be said that the attack and the nature of it on a unarmed female MP, just 5ft tall, in the middle of the day is without precedent. In this country anyway. Fascistic certainly. And unmanly at the same time. Beneath contempt. Within hours, and with impressive alacrity, the alleged killers political leanings emerge via an anti-fascist group in America. From closer to home it is also suggested he suffered from a long term mental illness. Hmm, tricky, what to do? Jonathan Freedland came up with the solution suggesting that "if you pour in enough poison someone will get sick".

For the Remain campaign both bases are now covered. If he is fascist all along it is the the Brexit campaign that emboldened him. If he was sick to begin with it was the Brexit campaign that tipped him over the edge. Hate is what caused it we are told. Mass immigration is vital because the indigenous population aka the 'white working class' are too lazy, stupid, greedy and feckless for business to rely them. But that is not hate.If they have been 'left behind' that is just because they are losers. That's all. But it''s not hate.

If they are told they have the 'reasoning of the average 10 year old' as one commentator described Trump supporters that is not hate either. Liberals don't hate. Hate is what the other side do. Worst of all they, the other side, are anti-democratic. That is why the attack is widely described 'as an attack on democracy'. Implying that this murderous lashing out was in revenge as a result of being thwarted by the liberal, anti-racist, democratic majority.

Except, according to all the most recent polls it was the 'other side' - you know, life's losers- who at the time of the foul murder were actually winning the argument.
At this rate they'll be arguing for the unfortunate Jo Cox to be buried on polling day. Out of you know, respect.

Cameron and Corbyn are calling for 'unity'. Behind them of course. This is the same camp complaining about 'cynicism' and the 'fragility of democracy'. Mainland Europe is watching carefully. If for whatever reason the Leave lead erodes now there will be profound consequences. If the situation in Europe was deemed dangerous and volatile before, picture what it will be like the day after.
 
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Joe Reilly said:
First off let it be said that the attack and the nature of it on a unarmed female MP, just 5ft tall, in the middle of the day is without precedent. In this country anyway. Fascistic certainly. And unmanly at the same time. Beneath contempt. Within hours and with impressive alacrity the alleged killers political leanings emerge via an anti-fascist group in America. From closer to home it is also suggested he suffered from a long term mental illness. Hmm, tricky, what to do? Jonathan Freedland came up with the solution suggesting that "if you pour in enough poison someone will get sick".

For the Remain campaign both bases are now covered. If he is fascist all along it is the the Brexit campaign that emboldened him If he was sick to begin with it was the Brexit campaign that tipped him over the edge. Hate is what caused it we are told. Mass immigration is vital because the indigenous population aka the 'white working class' are too lazy, stupid, greedy and feckless for business to rely them. But that is not hate.

If they have been 'left behind' that is just because they are losers. That's all. But it''s not hate. If they are told they have the 'reasoning of the average 10 year old' as one commentator described Trump supporters that is not hate either. Liberals don't hate. Hate is what the other side do. Worst of all they, the other side, are anti-democratic. That is why the attack is widely described 'as an attack on democracy'. Implying that this murderous lashing out was in revenge as a result of being thwarted by the liberal, anti-racist, democratic majority. Except, according to all the most recent polls it was the 'other side' - you know, life's losers- who at the time of the foul murder were actually winning the argument.
At this rate they'll be arguing for the unfortunate Jo Cox to be buried on polling day. Out of you know, respect.
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Is it likely that as a result of this attack on an elected MP - the reaction to which as you've suggested has been that this an 'attack on liberal democracy' - the state cracking down on the ideological driving force and groups like Britain First and National Action are put under heavy pressure? This could be achieved without deligitimising the 'democratic far-right' such as UKIP. Clear the militants, leaving the electoral space disassociated from the violent fringe and free for the 'respectable' right to prosper.

Or have I taken that too far? :D
 
Britain First for a state ban, anyone?

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"After Jo Cox's Killing, a Heartless but Necessary Market Assessment - pound and euro rallied while gold and government stocks sold off..."

Wall Street Journal yesterday, linking a boost in Remain's prospects to Jo Cox's murder.
 
In the event of remain triumphing in the referendum are we likely to see a spike again in EDL-style groups (if not the Neo Nazi ones) like we saw with the murder of Lee Rigby?
This whole business seems to have normalised racism. Worrying stuff.
 
Magnus McGinty said:
In the event of remain triumphing in the referendum are we likely to see a spike again in EDL-style groups (if not the Neo Nazi ones) like we saw with the murder of Lee Rigby.
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It cannot be ruled out, but the shift looks more fundamental than that.

Here and across Europe, the Left has long been on wrong side of the argument, the wrong side of the class divide, and the wrong side of history.

Near everything else flows from that.

They fought long and hard for identity politics.

And in a number of ways the referendum result can be seen as a manifestation of this.
 
krtek a houby said:
Those on the left who voted leave are certainly on the wrong side.
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The left envisioned a socialism without the working class, which over time inevitably morphed into a socialism against the working class. The warning lights have been flashing on the European dashboard for decades. Hubris demanded the warnings were ignored. The referendum result is just one of the consequences.
 
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Tribute to a working class anti fascist from Liverpool who went on to become active in IRSP/INLA in Ireland. Had never heard his name until recently.

Colin from Liverpool was the son of a Presbyterian minister of Irish descent. Colin worked as for the Post office and became involved in politics in his capacity as shop steward. A well-known figure in left-wing and republican politics in his native city, a comrade of Colin’s from Liverpool had this to say of him:

“I first met him when we were involved in anti-fascist work in Liverpool during the late 70s and early 80s. Along with three other comrades, he was a member of the IRSP Liverpool Support Group. He was very involved in a number of organisations including the Troops Out Movement, the Anti -Nazi League and the Merseyside Anti -Racist Alliance. He was a tall lad, but slightly built. This did not stop him taking part in street fights with members of the National Front and British Movement. On one occasion a fight broke out on Church Street between fascist paper sellers and members of local socialist and anarchist groups. Colin had earlier been enjoying his bottled Guinness in the White Star pub and was on the upper deck of a bus making his way home to his flat in Toxteth. Seeing the fight, Colin ran downstairs and opened the door of the bus by using the emergency handle. He jumped off the bus, ran up the street and thumped one of the fascists. Another time he punched a 'fascist' who ran towards him and when the 'fascist' dropped his radio, Colin realised he had planted an undercover copper. He was arrested after the death of Airey Neave, but released. The police cause quite a bit of damage to his flat. In case anyone is getting the wrong idea, Colin was a gentle lad. He kept hamsters as pets and I never saw lose his temper with anyone. I worked with him when we were sent on a Government Training Scheme in 1979 when we were both unemployed and looking for work in the building trade. I have to admit when I read of his death in The Guardian all those years ago, I cried, which is something I seldom do. He was a good comrade and I'm glad I knew him”.

Colin later moved to London where he ran the ‘News from Nowhere’ book store. He was greatly involved in left-wing politics and was a popular figure amongst his comrades. Colin had discussed with his friends for some time his desire to offer his services to the Irish Republican Socialist Movement. During the period of the 1980-81 hunger strikes, Colin moved to the Divis flats complex in West Belfast. One can only wonder at the loneliness of Colin during this period, moving into a vacant flat on his own with no assistance from anyone. But his solitary experience did not last as his regular attendance at the numerous protests and pickets during this time gained him the respect and comradeship of the Republican socialist community in Belfast.

Colin joined the Republican Socialist movement and was a prominent figure in the political activity in the Divis flats area. However the constant harassment and raids of the Royal Ulster constabulary forced Colin, like so many others to go on the run. Eventually settling in Dundalk, Colin did not rest from active service and was involved in many operations in the 26 counties. Unfortunately Colin’s luck ran out when he was captured by the Gardaí during an operation in Dundalk. It is testament to his bravery and commitment to the struggle that Colin actually stayed behind during the Garda chase to ensure that his comrades would have a better chance of escape.

During his time in prison Colin had embarked on various protests against the inhumane and degrading treatment of political prisoners in the Free-state. Colin eventually embarked on a hunger strike which later ended. It was soon after that Colin died at 31 years of age. The Free-state authorities have never delivered a credible reason for Colin’s death and how his health and physical was not monitored or treated. As republican socialists know only too well a hunger strike, even if not to the death can cause lasting damage to the participant’s health. The Free-state prison authorities would also have been familiar with this fact so the question must be asked – Why was a political prisoner, recently involved in a hunger strike, neglected in this callous manner? The Free-state government hopes that this issue would quietly be forgotten but as long as the struggle for national liberation and socialism goes on, We will never forget Colin Maguire. The best memorial we can build for Colin is a 32 county workers republic which he so diligently fought for. We remember Colin as a Volunteer, a family member, a prisoner-of-war, a comrade and most importantly a working class man who fought the injustice of capitalist imperialism wherever it presented itself.
 
framed said:
UAF have also mysteriously reappeared in the area as well. Both YRE and UAF have apparently re-emerged in the North East due to the appearance of another more militant anti-fascist outfit. This is exactly the role that YRE played in Glasgow in relation to AFA in the early to mid-1990's. They were set up to directly compete with AFA in Scotland and to muddy the waters. I would view this as a similarly cynical and politically sectarian manoeuvre.

In other words, the people who revived these front organisations for the SWP and the Socialist Party in the North East are not reacting to any perceived increase in the activity of the fascists, but are in fact reacting to the increased activity of militant anti-fascists.
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Hope not Hate now looking at organising nationally. To what ends I don't know.

#MoreInCommon

Edit: also In the guardian.

UK ‘hotspots’ targeted in bid to calm post-Brexit tension
 
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Magnus McGinty said:
Hope not Hate now looking at organising nationally. To what ends I don't know.

#MoreInCommon
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"The toxic nature of the Referendum campaign has released visceral hatred" according to H&H. How very true.

Take this comment from The Independent website.

"Why should the pond life who dragged themselves from their estates to the ballot box, be allowed to ruin it for the rest of us?"

The notion that the manual working class are either "ill-informed" or "ill-equipped" to play a pivotal role in such a national discussion is an anti-democratic sentiment that is suddenly widespread among leading politicians and mainstream opinion-formers in the media.

Street demonstrations involving the middle classes, and calls for a second referendum, or for parliament to ignore or reverse the result spring from the same sense of anti-democratic entitlement.

That this is often dressed up as anti-racism makes it all the more dangerously pernicious.

If you really want to create a basis for old-school fascism in the 21st century across Europe, then to side with the elite, and allow this widespread disdain for democracy to pass without censure, is a good way to go about it.

So rather than restrict the campaign to chasing down ephemeral 'reports' of a spike in hate crime, if H&H really want to apply themselves to something substantial; if they really want to "isolate the haters", then here is precisely where their campaign would begin.
 
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Street demonstrations involving the middle classes, and calls for a second referendum, or for parliament to ignore or reverse the result spring from the same sense of anti-democratic entitlement.

That this is often dressed up as anti-racism makes it all the more dangerously pernicious.
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Genuine anti-fascism would have called a counter demonstration to the march on Saturday.
 
Joe Reilly said:
"The toxic nature of the Referendum campaign has released visceral hatred" according to H&H. How very true.

Take this comment from The Independent website.

"Why should the pond life who dragged themselves from their estates to the ballot box, be allowed to ruin it for the rest of us?"

The notion that the manual working class are either "ill-informed" or "ill-equipped" to play a pivotal role in such a national discussion is an anti-democratic sentiment that is suddenly widespread among leading politicians and mainstream opinion-formers in the media.

Street demonstrations involving the middle classes, and calls for a second referendum, or for parliament to ignore or reverse the result spring from the same sense of anti-democratic entitlement.

That this is often dressed up as anti-racism makes it all the more dangerously pernicious.

If you really want to create a basis for old-school fascism in the 21st century across Europe, then to side with the elite, and allow this widespread disdain for democracy to pass without censure, is a good way to go about it.

So rather than restrict the campaign to chasing down ephemeral 'reports' of a spike in hate crime, if H&H really want to apply themselves to something substantial; if they really want to "isolate the haters", then here is precisely where their campaign would begin.
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didn't catch who/ where the stats were coming from, but on Friday, caught the end of a piece on r4 that suggested the rise of actual racial hate crimes was small, the rise in reporting of it / on it = substantial
 
cantsin said:
didn't catch who/ where the stats were coming from, but on Friday, caught the end of a piece on r4 that suggested the rise of actual racial hate crimes was small, the rise in reporting of it / on it = substantial
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How do they know there's been a rise in reporting hate crime given they don't have figures for what previously hasn't been reported?
The rise in reporting could easily be due to a rise in offending.
 
Magnus McGinty said:
How do they know there's been a rise in reporting hate crime given they don't have figures for what previously hasn't been reported?
The rise in reporting could easily be due to a rise in offending.
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as i say, caught the end of it, so it's worse than hearsay re; reporting 'of it' - 'reporting on it' undoubtedly has risen hugely as it feeds into the whole broiling mess
 
cantsin said:
as i say, caught the end of it, so it's worse than hearsay re; reporting 'of it' - 'reporting on it' undoubtedly has risen hugely as it feeds into the whole broiling mess
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For the Remain campaign every "incident" is automatically categorised as "hate crime" which then become "attacks" before being finally rolled up into what Jack Dromey felt able to describe today with a straight face as a frightening post referendum "surge in racial violence".

One example of how an initial incident comes to be inflated is described in a letter to the i. Under a headline 'report racism when you see it' the writer describes "driving home through a local estate."

The schools had just ended for the day "and on one street i saw two boys in school uniform giving Nazi salutes to passing cars." He duly reported the incident to the school. And then reported the school to the local authority. For as John Steed of Nuneaton, puts it: "this behaviour needs to be stamped out."

Either the school of local authority, or more likely both of them, given the febrile atmosphere would have immediately notified the police. Who would in turn have duly logged it under the heading "suspected hate crime".

Oddly what Mr Steed neglects to tell us is a) what age the school boys were, or b) whether any of the cars occupants were specifically targeted and c) what precisely the "local estate" he happened to be "driving through" had to do with it? Though in the case of c) I think we can all guess.




 
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This may be of some interest to the AFA veterans from the area.

Match Day - Ulster Loyalism And The British Far-Right eBook: Tony Simms: Amazon.ca: Kindle Store

The story of Tony Simms has been kept under lock and key... Until now!!!

This is like no other story you will have read before. Tony Simms has lead a life some people would only dream about, as he leaves no stone unturned.

From his early years following Aston Villa Football Club all over the country, to knowing all the main hooligans down Villa Park, he has many stories to tell.
These include the victory over the Zulu Warriors at Garrison Lane, to his trial at Birmingham Crown Court after a mass brawl with Man United at the Adventures pub.

Tony then progressed into right-wing politics with the National Front, Where he explains about explosive NF Marches, and their deadly clashes with the Anti-Nazi League. He eventually moved onto the BNP, Where he clarifies about the BNP’s push for electoral power in the UK taking on all the mainstream parties and beating them.

Further on down the line Tony got involved with the loyalist paramilitaries of the U.D.A, where you get a first hand account of the rise and fall of Johnny Adair, And the untimely death of Brigadier John "Grugg" Gregg. By now Tony had linked up with and befriended some of the deadliest terrorists in Northern Ireland.
This is the one Book I’d recommend for anybody trying to understand the links between British Nationalism and Ulster loyalism. This story is not for the faint hearted, and told only as Tony Simms could tell it.

It is gripping and sometimes disturbing as he explains the controversy surrounding "the Troubles" in loyal Ulster.

Buckle down and get ready for the ride of your life!!!
 
Red About Town said:
This may be of some interest to the AFA veterans from the area.

Match Day - Ulster Loyalism And The British Far-Right eBook: Tony Simms: Amazon.ca: Kindle Store

The story of Tony Simms has been kept under lock and key... Until now!!!

This is like no other story you will have read before. Tony Simms has lead a life some people would only dream about, as he leaves no stone unturned.

From his early years following Aston Villa Football Club all over the country, to knowing all the main hooligans down Villa Park, he has many stories to tell.
These include the victory over the Zulu Warriors at Garrison Lane, to his trial at Birmingham Crown Court after a mass brawl with Man United at the Adventures pub.

Tony then progressed into right-wing politics with the National Front, Where he explains about explosive NF Marches, and their deadly clashes with the Anti-Nazi League. He eventually moved onto the BNP, Where he clarifies about the BNP’s push for electoral power in the UK taking on all the mainstream parties and beating them.

Further on down the line Tony got involved with the loyalist paramilitaries of the U.D.A, where you get a first hand account of the rise and fall of Johnny Adair, And the untimely death of Brigadier John "Grugg" Gregg. By now Tony had linked up with and befriended some of the deadliest terrorists in Northern Ireland.
This is the one Book I’d recommend for anybody trying to understand the links between British Nationalism and Ulster loyalism. This story is not for the faint hearted, and told only as Tony Simms could tell it.

It is gripping and sometimes disturbing as he explains the controversy surrounding "the Troubles" in loyal Ulster.

Buckle down and get ready for the ride of your life!!!
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Looks a doozie

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