butchersapron
Bring back hanging
He's only going to say go to oxbridge anyway.
BBC - Owen Jones
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tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
You're so behind the times. No respectable British publication of the left would now consider employing any columnist who hadn't been to Harvard.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
How about if you use it to have a pop at your twitter enemies Owen? And how about some critical interrogation of 'the occasion'.
The occasion ffs.
The occasion ffs.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Well it would be good advice if someone wants to work at the Graunid
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
When that little Syrian boy was found washed up on a Turkish beach, it had an impact on public opinion, because humans are naturally empathetic creatures, but that empathy is undermined when the humanity of a group of people are stripped away. Suddenly refugees became human beings again: story-telling humanises. Focusing on, say, personal experiences of being treated by foreign-born nurses and doctors in the NHS can be effective, too, because a large chunk of the population has experience of being treated by, say, Nigerian, Lithuanian or Bangladeshi careworkers. Making arguments that connect with people emotionally, rather than treating them as statistic-computing machines, is more effective.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
It has already sold out, so no.
Column-writing with Owen Jones
If you want to see him in London talking in general that'll be £16.
Owen Jones: The Politics of Hope - Leicester Square Theatre
This one is just him talking for Colchester £12 a pop.
Owen Jones: The Politics of Hope at Colchester Arts Centre
His talk in Sheffield was a bit more reasonable at £7.50.
Off the Shelf 2015
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Or £3 to watch it streamed elsewhere in the building, wow.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Has he got any new jokes?
I'll get my coat...
I'll get my coat...
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Interesting that the only one out of Owen, Shami Chakrabarti, Gary Younge and Paul Mason to be streamed is Owen Jones.
I think Paul Mason is empty, but SC is a proper lawyer and GY has close hand perspective on black America - but Owen Jones has more to give apparently.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Here you go this is the kind of wisdom we can get
Owen Jones @OwenJones84The heat in the Syria debate isn't proportionate to the tokenistic contribution Britain will make, is it?
suggests Pope is socialist in this interview with Mogg
gosub
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Been thinking that all dayHere you go this is the kind of wisdom we can get
The heat in the Syria debate isn't proportionate to the tokenistic contribution Britain will make, is it?
Vivity Report
New Member
ahh man I liked Owen Jones, I guess no one is perfect.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
idols with feet of clay
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Can't say I'm over pleased with his 'jokey' interviews with the likes of Rees-Mogg, but more importantly with his flip-flopping (hey, remember that term?) over Europe. A couple of months ago he was passionately calling for the Left to unite behind an 'out' vote, suddenly he's saying the opposite. Not impressed.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Grotesque. You have an opportunity to squeeze division into Britain's ruling powers and you say campaign for in.
With Cameron in retreat, Labour can unite behind “in” while calling for a different EU. That means making it more democratic, more transparent and, above all, challenging how it is all too often hardwired to support unaccountable corporate interests rather than working people. There will be differences in emphasis in how this is achieved. For those on Labour’s left, there are two European initiatives that must surely be engaged with. One has been set up byYanis Varoufakis, the former Greek finance minister. In February, he will launch the Democracy in Europe Movement 2025 (DiEM25), with the aim of democratising unaccountable EU institutions. Another is Plan B, set up by leftwingers such as Germany’s Oskar Lafontaine and France’s Jean Luc Mélenchon, which aims to coordinate European politicians, intellectuals, activists and NGOs with regular summits to chart a different way forward.
So you can big two new soft-left talking shops
With Cameron in retreat, Labour can unite behind “in” while calling for a different EU. That means making it more democratic, more transparent and, above all, challenging how it is all too often hardwired to support unaccountable corporate interests rather than working people. There will be differences in emphasis in how this is achieved. For those on Labour’s left, there are two European initiatives that must surely be engaged with. One has been set up byYanis Varoufakis, the former Greek finance minister. In February, he will launch the Democracy in Europe Movement 2025 (DiEM25), with the aim of democratising unaccountable EU institutions. Another is Plan B, set up by leftwingers such as Germany’s Oskar Lafontaine and France’s Jean Luc Mélenchon, which aims to coordinate European politicians, intellectuals, activists and NGOs with regular summits to chart a different way forward.
So you can big two new soft-left talking shops
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Weird - she was referenced throughout his chavs book as the voice of truth on class. Was quite sickening. As is the title of that monstrosity you linked to: Class Wars.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
July 2015:
The left must put Britain's EU withdrawal on the agenda
The left must now campaign to leave the EU | Owen Jones
Feb 2016:
How Corbyn could make a virtue of his former EU doubts
How Corbyn could make a virtue of his former EU doubts | Owen Jones
The left must put Britain's EU withdrawal on the agenda
The left must now campaign to leave the EU | Owen Jones
Owen Jones said:
Feb 2016:
How Corbyn could make a virtue of his former EU doubts
How Corbyn could make a virtue of his former EU doubts | Owen Jones
Owen Jones said:
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
So, Owen falls back on the "vote for 'x' with no illusions" argument, just like he did regarding the General Election.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
It's a winning strategy - campaign for an 'in' vote by slagging off the EU at every opportunity.
I'm constantly amazed that social democracy isn't more popular given its tactical savvy.
I criticised Owen Jones on Facebook page yesterday, never swore, never used any disparaging language or anything. Simply pointed out that I did not agree with him and that I believe Labour should support an out campaign. The response I got from his followers was unbelievable, I was accused of being racist, EDL and all sorts. So many people reported my post that the Guardian blocked me from posting for 24 hours to their facebook page. I even had my profile picture reported for containing nudity!
Is this how the left treat their own?
Is this how the left treat their own?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
did you get called an anarchist? OJ was doing that last year at people who disagreed with him. On that twitter machine.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Were you invited to check your privilege too?
Owen has just stormed out of the Sky News Paper review, he was very angry that the presenter and Hartley Brewer were not acknowleging the exceptionalism of the awful events in Orlando. which he said "was a homophobic terrorist act and the worse for LGBT since the holocaust". One could see he was fragile, was understandably 'on the brink' and maybe shouldn't have gone on tonight and maybe left it till he had slept etc.
btw, i met Owen a couple of weeks ago, he is a deeply compassionate man.
btw, i met Owen a couple of weeks ago, he is a deeply compassionate man.
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Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I don't agree with Owen Jones on much (anything to be honest) but he was right to walk off from what I have seen.
My only criticism is that he should be tanned the jaw of the presenter on the way out.
My only criticism is that he should be tanned the jaw of the presenter on the way out.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Hartley-Brewer, apart from being as thick as mince, is an appalling troll. Good on Owen for walking out of the studio. I'd have done exactly the same thing.
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