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I presume this is sarcasm?!

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red & green said:
Why is this person constantly making speeches ? Who the f is he -apart from a journo and why is his opinion so important ? Don't get it
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Because history is moulded by the minds of great men and Owen Jones already has one foot in the hallowed halls of the intellectual Valhalla. Tremble, ye lowly mortals, and know your salvation is at hand.
 
The guy is delusional:

Let's start with the Parliamentary Labour Party. It is well known that Corbyn only scraped on to the ballot paper. Presuming that no left candidate would make it on to the ballot paper, the Shadow Cabinet minister Jon Trickett and I had been planning a 'Not The Labour Leadership'-style national tour to try and build up a grassroots movement. That proved superfluous. Some MPs nominated Corbyn because they were on the left of the party, including many new MPs. But some did so because they came under extraordinary pressure from their own grassroots, a foreshadow of the increasingly enthusiastic movement we see today. There were politically savvy right-wing Labour MPs who knew that the Labour Party had changed since Blair was effectively ejected as leader, and they feared from the outset what Corbyn's campaign could achieve.

Labour MPs put him on the ballot in order to scupper him. Jon Trickett is a pro-EU fraud of a "Labour Left".

Backtracking on housing:-

It will surely pledge to deal with the housing crisis by not just building council housing and legislating in favour of private sector tenants, but enable home ownership for those who want it without undermining social housing.

This is the killer:-

An emphasis on conciliation and unity within his own party – building on his recent 'unity statement' – will make it politically harder for those within the PLP who wish to undermine him.

Exactly what happened to Ken Livingstone when he won against the Millbank machine - he adopted a Blairist deputy Gavron ? iirc and a centrist cabinet and said all is forgiven in 2003 after the war on Iraq.
 
sihhi said:
The guy is delusional:

Let's start with the Parliamentary Labour Party. It is well known that Corbyn only scraped on to the ballot paper. Presuming that no left candidate would make it on to the ballot paper, the Shadow Cabinet minister Jon Trickett and I had been planning a 'Not The Labour Leadership'-style national tour to try and build up a grassroots movement. That proved superfluous. Some MPs nominated Corbyn because they were on the left of the party, including many new MPs. But some did so because they came under extraordinary pressure from their own grassroots, a foreshadow of the increasingly enthusiastic movement we see today. There were politically savvy right-wing Labour MPs who knew that the Labour Party had changed since Blair was effectively ejected as leader, and they feared from the outset what Corbyn's campaign could achieve.

Labour MPs put him on the ballot in order to scupper him. Jon Trickett is a pro-EU fraud of a "Labour Left".

Backtracking on housing:-

It will surely pledge to deal with the housing crisis by not just building council housing and legislating in favour of private sector tenants, but enable home ownership for those who want it without undermining social housing.

This is the killer:-

An emphasis on conciliation and unity within his own party – building on his recent 'unity statement' – will make it politically harder for those within the PLP who wish to undermine him.

Exactly what happened to Ken Livingstone when he won against the Millbank machine - he adopted a Blairist deputy Gavron ? iirc and a centrist cabinet and said all is forgiven in 2003 after the war on Iraq.
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Its a complicated old business politics, that's why its called politics. But what would I know I don't possess such a clear sense of good and evil as so many posters do on political threads on Urban75.
 
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It's not like Labour is even anti-home ownership anyway. And it's not like there aren't bigger priorities when it comes to housing right now (private landlords, 'market rents', bedroom tax, shit tenancy agreements, lack of social building and supply, etc). I'd rather we won back the argument that social housing is a common good, and doesn't have to be seen as somehow 'only for those in need'.

(Which actually he seems to spend the piece arguing for improving the social and rented situation rather than home ownership anyway, but then drops into that phrase of the moment 'aspiration'. Which seems to be measured on private ownership and individual status.)
 
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J Ed said:
Owen Jones has gone seriously to the right in the past few months, not that he was that much to write home about before, he's getting further sucked into the bubble of scum
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The left can only win if it offers policies that inspire both low-income and middle-income Britons – that is, the majority of society. That means those who are really struggling in life, and those who are doing OK, but for whom life is insecure and who worry about the future of their children.

He supports this garbage

And then there’s promoting, say, local authority mortgages for those who cannot currently get on the housing ladder.

Tory (+ Labour) councils were doing this in the 1970s and 1980s. It's just fluff.


ETA: If you're actually doing the stuff you promise and building and repairing council housing so that it's above the quality of private built why would anyone take up mortgages for people in the private sector Firstly: an ambitious programme of building council housing, to bring down the 5 million-strong social housing waiting list, reduce the housing benefit bill, create jobs and stimulate the economy. Such council housing should surely be according to the spec of Nye Bevan: of a better quality than private housing, and intended to foster mixed communities, rather than ghettoise the poorest.
 
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One-in-seven British workers are now self-employed: many value their independence, but are not so happy with the insecurity, and that includes difficulties in being accepted for a mortgage.
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Such as twenty something newspaper columnists who are self-employed for tax purposes and can't afford a mortgage in London in areas where twenty something newspaper columnists would like to live.
 
I expect we will be seeing quite a bit more whinging about the housing crisis now that the middle class children of home-owners are being directly affected - course, not a fucking peep when their parents were raking in more from housing equity than what they actually earned as a salary whilst the homeless levels reached crisis proportions and the housing benefit /landlord's subsidy was cheerfully being dispensed...but these things tend to be generational,
 
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