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People just don't get it, do they?

I often get asked if a kidney transplant would help. My response normally involves a ten minute overview of the transplant system and why, even if I did get a transplant, I'd swap one set of problems for another.

You expect better from "medically-trained personnel", but seldom bleeding get it! :)
 
They suggested I could get adult nappies from my G.P :D
Yep, same here, plus wipes, and separate placcy bags for sticking the soiled clothing and cleaning materials in. Reaction was "huh?", to which I asked, "what, so I'm just supposed to stick my shitty clothes straight in my man-bag, and leave whoever's toilet I've borrowed looking like someone has exploded a sewage bomb in it?". Half of these twats don't know they're born!
Fuck me!!
They are inhumane!
This sort of thing is definitely out of order and something Joe Public should be aware of.
Duty of care - total bollocks :(
 
'I was at my Prosthetic centre a couple of weeks back and was talking to a chap there. He had been attacked in broad daylight in the centre of Milton Keynes by a bunch of yobs, badly cut and bruised, the wheels on his chair bent so it is now practically immobile (though neither the council nor his PCT will give him a replacement). He got all the taunts about being a scrounger and that he should "save the taxpayer some money and die". All the while, people passing did nothing. The police gave him a crime number and said there's nothing they could do. The guy is 73 and worked all his life until he was 68 as a skilled marine engineer. He now says he daren't leave his flat on his own.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2...bled-people?commentpage=all#start-of-comments


From CIf, the propaganda is having serious consequences, sadly it looks like its often youths who are not working, the 'underclass' who are undertaking these attacks...
 
If they try to suggest the diaper route, or any other nonsense, then I shall involve my solicitor as well as my GP and MS nurse.

Demeaning, degrading and cruel.
European Court of Human Rights ?
I'm not altogether joking!
 
What a bloody disgrace.

I've had more problems today, regarding Housing Benefit. I got a letter at the weekend saying that I owe 4 weeks' rent, because my benefit had been stopped. How does that work? My IB/IS doesn't stop till Wednesday this week. The letter was dated the day before I took my HB application form to their office, so I assumed it was a stupid mistake and didn't take it too seriously.

Today I phoned them about it, and that's where it gets complicated. HB dept said they'd been informed of my benefits stopping (but not the date), and therefore hadn't sent out January's rent payments to Housing dept (who are now privatised). I would have to speak to Housing dept. They said they'd acted on info provided, and I would have to speak to HB dept.

There was a lot more to it than that, of course.

I finally tracked down the HB letter that stated the date that my benefits stop (so they did know when it was), so I rang them back, got a sensible person this time, and she confirmed that they definitely had the date, and she put in an appeal, or report, or something, saying that the HB should be brought up to this Wednesday. She read it all back to me so that I could check everything she'd put, and it should now be sorted.

I'm not sure I can afford to hold my breath.
 
If they try to suggest the diaper route, or any other nonsense, then I shall involve my solicitor as well as my GP and MS nurse.

Demeaning, degrading and cruel.
European Court of Human Rights ?
I'm not altogether joking!

It's like the crap (pardon the pun) that DLA EMPS come out with regarding commodes. Fuck off. No way am I going to actually take a shit in the same room as someone else, and subject them to those sights, sounds and smells. It's not the same thing as getting their help to clean yourself after using a loo. DLA is supposed to help me live a "normal" life, and "normal" people don't take shits in their bedrooms and then try to get back to sleep with the aroma of their dung tickling their nose.

As for adult nappies, why should you be subjected to the physical issues regarding having your own bodily waste smeared around the skin inside the nappy, let alone the psychological issues, just for their convenience?

Fuck 'em, fuck the horse they rode in on, and the bloodstock merchant that sold 'em the horse.
 
I've just received a copy of my ATOS medical assessment. I've never seen such bollocks in all my life. The lazy cow c-and-p'd some paragraphs several times, ignored some of what I'd said, invented things I hadn't said, and outright lied about a few other things.

What a complete bitch.
 
Legal challenges to their 'decisions' may be a worthwhile avenue to pursue, maybe if a load of people got together, a class action or something? (not being a legal expert I don't know how realistic this is).
 
How so , do explain, for instance harz officers can intervene in a family's purchasing decisions, such as what food they buy..
 
'there is no shortage of jobs
Maria Miller blames unemployment on people's unwillingness to apply for work'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/feb/06/minister-disabled-no-shortage-jobs

Minister for Disabled, or the new Tebbitt, Maria Miller,
lol.400000 vacancies and only about three million or more chasing them!
Front page of local paper today some guy who had a kidney transplant unable to claim ESA. Letters section full of drivelling idiots claiming it's brilliant we're throwing people off benefits. Wish they were the ones explaining to the ill guy why he's got to go back to work before he's fit enough to earn money or starve and die.
 
If they try to suggest the diaper route, or any other nonsense, then I shall involve my solicitor as well as my GP and MS nurse.

Demeaning, degrading and cruel.
European Court of Human Rights ?
I'm not altogether joking!
The real reason cameron wants to get rid of HRA. All this talk about foreign criminals rights to a family cat (or whatever) a smokescreen.
 
How so , do explain, for instance harz officers can intervene in a family's purchasing decisions, such as what food they buy..

Harz IV gives the power to do so, but it's very seldom ever exercised, except in extremis, for example where an alcoholic parent may be spunking the money to feed the entire family on booze for themselves. I don't agree with the principle of interference, but when it's only used in order to protect the health of an entire family from the actions of one person, and the actions that Harz officials can take are circumscribed through the Basic Law, then it's not quite as awful as you're making out.
They can't, unlike over here, arbitrarily stop your benefit without providing hard evidence that you've transgressed work-seeking arrangements, for example.
 
Harz IV gives the power to do so, but it's very seldom ever exercised, except in extremis, for example where an alcoholic parent may be spunking the money to feed the entire family on booze for themselves. I don't agree with the principle of interference, but when it's only used in order to protect the health of an entire family from the actions of one person, and the actions that Harz officials can take are circumscribed through the Basic Law, then it's not quite as awful as you're making out.
They can't, unlike over here, arbitrarily stop your benefit without providing hard evidence that you've transgressed work-seeking arrangements, for example.

Was there any truth to the story about that woman who was threatened with having her benefits stopped unless she accepted a job in sex-work?
 
Was there any truth to the story about that woman who was threatened with having her benefits stopped unless she accepted a job in sex-work?

Apparently, the story was based on a woman not ruling "sex work" out, and therefore being pointed toward jobs in the sex industry. However, it's not compulsory to have to consider such jobs, even if you don't rule them out.
 
I have pics to show that Lees House in Brighton where I went a few years ago for an assessment was/is not fit for purpose.
When I went, the entrance for us punters was down a few steps into a small area in front of the entrance door. NOT the entrance that the staff use.
Strewn with ciggie butts and an empty wine bottle, I found a used sharp ( you can tuck away and shoot up ) which I took, wrapped in newspaper and disposed of at my doctors.
The entryphone mike you just wouldn't want to get near.
Clearly this area was seldom if ever cleaned.
Once in the entrance corridor the signs to indicate where to go were less than A4 and propped against the skirting board. In front was a fire escape door for an upstairs area (not ATOS) with a smashed a fire exit lock falling off.
Then the entry to their area with two fire doors going in, both jammed open.
This is totally illegal as they are fire trap doors, meant to contain any fire for a designated time.
When I went to reception I said this to them.
"It's so hot and we need to get some air"
Knowing about these things, I made it clear that they COULD NOT jam open fire doors.
They wanted the silly old bloke to shut up and sit down.
I was firm.

Point being that info about that sort of thing would be very interesting.
Later I had to go to the Croydon office.
Two badged up members of staff around to the side of the front door having a ciggie. Standing on the property in front of a sign saying "this is private property and the owners forbid smoking.

All this may seem minor, but not if anyone else finds bad and unhealthy practice like above and I can create a dossier.
There is more than one way to skin a cat!
 
We can cause them real problems if their housekeeping is as bad elsewhere as above.
Something that we could attack and nobody would disagree.
Health professional's grubby premisses :D
 
I've just received a copy of my ATOS medical assessment. I've never seen such bollocks in all my life. The lazy cow c-and-p'd some paragraphs several times, ignored some of what I'd said, invented things I hadn't said, and outright lied about a few other things.

What a complete bitch.
In her defence, and I'd rather not defend such people, the software is set to disregard anything put in as text in some boxes, and because the software is designed to generate the report using set sentence parts and words, depending on what she chose the report will be bollocks.
 
ATOS have no sense (okay, so we all know this already)

As of yesterday I'm now 64, I've got MS etc.
It cannot be cost effective for another assessment if it happens in the next 12 months - the only winner is ATOS, 'cos then I'll be an OAP.
 
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