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Why not get in touch with Black Triangle and see what you can do to help minnie. I'm sure your local medical committee would appreciate your support.
 
good news on the gp (edit: not gmc, grr my stupid brain) vote:)
Minnie_the_Minx said:
Oh, I also asked her if he had a medical assessment where would it be held. She just said probably somewhere near to your local job centre. I'm not convinced as I'm sure I've heard of people travelling miles for their assessment.
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when i lived in lambeth (brixton/streatham hill)
the assessment was at balham, maybe a couple of minutes from the station.
 
Minnie_the_Minx said:
Who would listen to them, the Government/DWP or Atos? :hmm:
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It's not a solution, but what it is, is momentum. With a unanimous (or as near as damn it) vote by the LMCs of the UK, it's far harder for the GMC to disregard any motions at their AGM. In fact it's likely that they'll shape policy in order to fall in line with the sentiments of their members.
Will ATOS and/or the DWP listen to the professional trade association for doctors? They won't have much choice if the doctors decide en bloc that it's not ethical to work for ATOS. ATOS can't function on a staff of superannuated nurses and physios, and neither can the DWP.
 
ViolentPanda said:
It's not a solution, but what it is, is momentum. With a unanimous (or as near as damn it) vote by the LMCs of the UK, it's far harder for the GMC to disregard any motions at their AGM. In fact it's likely that they'll shape policy in order to fall in line with the sentiments of their members.
Will ATOS and/or the DWP listen to the professional trade association for doctors? They won't have much choice if the doctors decide en bloc that it's not ethical to work for ATOS. ATOS can't function on a staff of superannuated nurses and physios, and neither can the DWP.
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True. Who exactly pays the doctors that ATOS uses though? Are they paid more for doing this job? I don't really know how it works :oops:
 
Minnie_the_Minx said:
True. Who exactly pays the doctors that ATOS uses though? Are they paid more for doing this job? I don't really know how it works :oops:
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The doctors tend to be contractors, the "healthcare professionals" (i.e. the nurses and phsyios etc ewho're assessing about 80% of people/prodding them through the tick-boxes on the computer) appear to be direct hires.
Pay-wise, it's good pay for them (i.e. more than they could make at agencies/as locums), and it isn't shiftwork.
 
ViolentPanda said:
The doctors tend to be contractors, the "healthcare professionals" (i.e. the nurses and phsyios etc ewho're assessing about 80% of people/prodding them through the tick-boxes on the computer) appear to be direct hires.
Pay-wise, it's good pay for them (i.e. more than they could make at agencies/as locums), and it isn't shiftwork.
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Would they be eaning more working for them then?
 
Maybe not more, but there's very few jobs in the medical field that don't involve shiftwork, so some of hem are going to be totally in love with working 9 - 5 for ATOS.
 
I tried google and internet explorer browsers and I still cant access black triangle.
Are you guys using firefox?
 
Hi Greebo :)

I've now got an appointment with Welfare Rights to discuss it all. It's not till the middle of July, but I'm guessing they're pretty bogged down with it all these days. And don't worry, I certainly won't give up! As you say, the principle is the important thing, here.
 
'URGENT! Give the lawyers YOUR story! MHRN get hearing for Judicial Review of WCA on June 29th
by JJ
An application has been made by members of the Mental Health Resistance Network for permission to have a Judicial Review of the Work Capability Assessment (WCA) and a judge has decided that there should be a hearing to decide whether to grant us the Judicial Review.
The hearing will happen at the Royal Courts of Justice in the Strand in London on Friday 29th June. We won’t know until the day before what time it will be heard.
We URGENTLY NEED YOUR STORY: PLEASE CLICK ON THE LINK: HERE
We can assist to get your experience of the DWP/AtoS Work Capability Assesment (WCA) to the legal team if you post in the thread. We will ensure that YOUR STORY will be entered into the 'bundle' that the lawyers are 'Armed' with when they enter into court to argue the case.
SO, PLEASE MAKE CONTACT WITH US! Justice cannot be achieved without YOUR help!

It is MHRN who have pushed this through, not any big charity -remember most activism is coming from grassroots groups-rather than well funded charities who like to try to claim the credit.
Note: links may not work for BT users if that is the case go to BlackTriangleCampaign Facebook page

Lets support MHRN as much as we can with this great achievement on 29th June-hopefully the first of many challenges to the corrupt WCA


mental health activists given hearing about option to challenge the draconian WCA, add your stories...

btw, I attended the Royal Courts for the hearing against NICE organised by people with M.E, I saw just how 'justice' is not equally balanced, PWME has a poor pro bono lawyer and sick people researching, NICE/The Govt has teams of laywers, researchers and a 'top class' barrister(but not a top guy!) and a judge who clearly knew what part of society he was from, the establishment, so I don't hold out much hope for them, but good luck..
 
treelover said:
'URGENT! Give the lawyers YOUR story! MHRN get hearing for Judicial Review of WCA on June 29th
by JJ
An application has been made by members of the Mental Health Resistance Network for permission to have a Judicial Review of the Work Capability Assessment (WCA) and a judge has decided that there should be a hearing to decide whether to grant us the Judicial Review.
The hearing will happen at the Royal Courts of Justice in the Strand in London on Friday 29th June. We won’t know until the day before what time it will be heard.
We URGENTLY NEED YOUR STORY: PLEASE CLICK ON THE LINK: HERE
We can assist to get your experience of the DWP/AtoS Work Capability Assesment (WCA) to the legal team if you post in the thread. We will ensure that YOUR STORY will be entered into the 'bundle' that the lawyers are 'Armed' with when they enter into court to argue the case.
SO, PLEASE MAKE CONTACT WITH US! Justice cannot be achieved without YOUR help!

It is MHRN who have pushed this through, not any big charity -remember most activism is coming from grassroots groups-rather than well funded charities who like to try to claim the credit.
Note: links may not work for BT users if that is the case go to BlackTriangleCampaign Facebook page

Lets support MHRN as much as we can with this great achievement on 29th June-hopefully the first of many challenges to the corrupt WCA


mental health activists given hearing about option to challenge the draconian WCA, add your stories...

btw, I attended the Royal Courts for the hearing against NICE organised by people with M.E, I saw just how 'justice' is not equally balanced, PWME has a poor pro bono lawyer and sick people researching, NICE/The Govt has teams of laywers, researchers and a 'top class' barrister(but not a top guy!) and a judge who clearly knew what part of society he was from, the establishment, so I don't hold out much hope for them, but good luck..
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Hi Treelover

Thank you for posting this link.
This explains why I cannot access black triangle, as I am a BT user.
Sorry to sound dumb, but I am a tranquiliser addict reducing valium under the supervision of my Doctor, and also supported by the specialist charity Battle Against Tranqulisers.

Although I have not yet migrated to ESA from IB and not had medical, can I still post?

As I am a BT user I have gone to facebook, but don't quite know where to post.
I am also paranoid that any information I post will get back to the DWP. (I know this is paranoid but paranoia is a symtpom of tranquliser withdrawl.

This whole welfare reform thing has really set me back as I am paranoid that because I have an occupational pension of £460 a month (medicallly retired on grounds of ill health), and I have a repayment mortgate, if found fit for work (many blatantly obviously unfit people have been found fit) I may end up losing my home, and that wioll obviously make me more ill.

Thanks again
 
Despite recognising the fact that I have a "disability and, or health condition" this shower have stopped my benefits, so I now have no income as well! How very compassionate of them. Frustratingly, it's likely civil service union members are the ones implementing and telling me this.​
 
audiotech said:
Despite recognising the fact that I have a "disability and, or health condition" this shower have stopped my benefits, so I now have no income as well! How very compassionate of them. Frustratingly, it's likely civil service union members are the ones implementing and telling me this.​
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I'm really sorry to hear this audio.
:(
 
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