Atos Medicals - Questions, Answers and Support
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chainsawjob
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equationgirl
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My keyworker just came and told me he's actually doing some training so can't make the time we both agreed when we rebooked it earlier
Have managed rebook again, eventually (after half an hour on hold with the DWP because the keyworker calling didn't know she needed to phone Atos!), for the 25th. I didn't think I was allowed to rebook a second time - maybe they just saw the most recent rearranged apt and didn't notice that I'd rebooked before that 
chainsawjob
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chainsawjob
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Ok, I think I'm going to have to put my appeal in late. I rang DWP to ask for extra time, and they said I needed to speak to the Tribunals Service. Spoke to them and they said they don't give extra time, but you can put in an appeal late and give your reasons in Section 5, and submit evidence why it's late (I have this, it's because new medication I've been prescribed is making it difficult to concentrate). The DWP are given four weeks to object to the appeal being put in late. I asked whether they are often successful in getting an appeal thrown out for being late, and was told, no if it's only a week late and you show evidence, yes if it's months late.
I've had some trouble finding the appeal form which I've just realised I need to use. The letter only says it can be found on www.justice.gov.uk/tribunals, but doesn't give an exact page. Anyway, I found it Venues and forms form SSCS1 here's the pdf in case anyone else is hunting high and low https://formfinder.hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/sscs1-eng.pdf
Edit: oh and the guidance leaflet to filling it in https://formfinder.hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/sscs1a-eng.pdf
I've had some trouble finding the appeal form which I've just realised I need to use. The letter only says it can be found on www.justice.gov.uk/tribunals, but doesn't give an exact page. Anyway, I found it Venues and forms form SSCS1 here's the pdf in case anyone else is hunting high and low https://formfinder.hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/sscs1-eng.pdf
Edit: oh and the guidance leaflet to filling it in https://formfinder.hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/sscs1a-eng.pdf
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felixthecat
are we there yet?
Well. Got the brown envelope yesterday - she's been awarded enhanced PIP which has been back paid to June. No interview.
Suprised but pleased.
equationgirl
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This is exactly what happened to me iona, same reason, and I wasn't allowed to rebook a second time. They ended my claim for failing to attend, and I'm now appealing the decision. I think you might have fallen lucky there
Yeah, I was remembering that when my support worker was trying to convince me they "can't do that because it would be illegal" - like that's ever stopped them before! Hope you get yours sorted on appeal.
Just been to my assessment and it wasn't too bad. Assessor happened to have a relevant background (listed a range of roles within various psychiatric services over the last twenty years), had actually read my form and let my support worker answer most of the questions. Even spent a few minutes talking with him about how best to get people assessed on paper once we were finished.
Still expecting to have to appeal, mind, but anything that makes the process less shit is appreciated.
equationgirl
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That's encouraging iona, keeping my fingers crossed for a positive outcome for you
equationgirl
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About time for some good news, well doneI changed over to PIP recently and didn't have to appeal! TBF I'm a relatively obvious case but that doesn't always mean anything. It's indefinite too. One weight off my mind
chainsawjob
Kipping in the dunes
I changed over to PIP recently and didn't have to appeal! TBF I'm a relatively obvious case but that doesn't always mean anything. It's indefinite too. One weight off my mind
Double like! Very good news
WouldBe
Dislicksick
My sister had her PIP tribunal yesterday. There was a judge, GP, some other bod and an arse from the DWP there. 
Sounds like it was a right Spanish inquisition type affair and sis isn't happy about it.
They wouldn't give my sis a reply at the end of the tribunal either she has to sweat it out for several days until she gets a decision through the post.
Sounds like it was a right Spanish inquisition type affair and sis isn't happy about it.They wouldn't give my sis a reply at the end of the tribunal either she has to sweat it out for several days until she gets a decision through the post.
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
sounds horrible having to wait just adding to pain. sending good wishes xMy sister had her PIP tribunal yesterday. There was a judge, GP, some other bod and an arse from the DWP there.
They wouldn't give my sis a reply at the end of the tribunal either she has to sweat it out for several days until she gets a decision through the post.
chainsawjob
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equationgirl
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WouldBe
Dislicksick
Sister got her decision yesterday. Tribunal has upheld DWP's decision of 0 points despite her having fibromyalgia and regularly seeing a shrink. Apparently anything to do with DLA has no bearing on PIP as it's totally different despite most of the questions being the same and most of the point scores being the same.
Apparently anything to do with DLA has no bearing on PIP as it's totally different despite most of the questions being the same and most of the point scores being the same.
equationgirl
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Can she appeal?Sister got her decision yesterday. Tribunal has upheld DWP's decision of 0 points despite her having fibromyalgia and regularly seeing a shrink.
I don't understand this persistence that the two are not related. How can they not be?
WouldBe
Dislicksick
She's seeing a benefits org today sometime for advice. I suspect all she can do is take it to 2nd tier tribunal with the hope they refer it back to a different 1st tier tribunal.
I've no idea. May have to do a print out to show how closely related they are for my tribunal next Tue.
They kept asking my sis how long it took her to walk 30M. WTF 30M has got to do with anything I don't know and why should how long it take be of any relevance when the question asks how far you can walk. If they persist with that with me I mat have to invite them to the college next door to demonstrate I can cover 30M in 3 seconds......vertically.
equationgirl
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These assessments are just bollocks, Greebo (much missed) always said that it's not just the assessment itself it's the impact of doing the assessment on the claimant over the following few weeks that should also be included. The repeatability aspect of doing activity A seems very overlooked.
chainsawjob
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equationgirl
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Hopefully the fact that you couldn't remember will work in your favour @worldbe my fingers crossed for you too.
WouldBe
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It wasn't a case of I kept telling them "I can't remember" it was the fact that I couldn't remember to expand on thing and add vital info like having to stop frequently when shopping.
The occupational therapist said that if I used the stairs more it would strengthen my quads which would help with the knee problem. As soon as she said it I knew there was something wrong with it. 4 hours later it finally twigged that the reason I had a downstairs loo put in was because I was struggling to get up the stairs in the first sodding place.Mind you the stress did cause my left leg to go into spasms which they did notice but again I forgot to mention that that would severely affect my walking ability. ability to stand to cook a meal etc. Hopefully they have the commonsense to put 2 + 2 together and not end up with 3,761 or something stupid like that.
Not that I think they will after some of the stupid comments made by so called professional people. Dr asked several times why housemaids knee affected my walking ability and why it affected my left leg when I've only got it on the right knee so had to point out that it wasn't the housemaids knee that was causing the problems but the deteriorating cartilage in both knees that was the problem. Then the occupational therapist, who was getting frustrated, asked why I couldn't use my hips to cross my legs so I could get my lower body clothes on in a morning. Now unless the medical profession have moved / renamed the hips since I was in St Johns ambulance I had to demonstrate to her how using your hips to cross your legs didn't bring your feet any closer so you still wouldn't be able to reach them. She also asked me how much a pack of cigs were and then asked how much change I'd get from a tenner. If they think that is a valid mental state exam they have another think coming and even if it was part of a longer test it still wouldn't count as the price of cigs has stayed the same since the last budget so I've been told approx 100 times how much the cigs are and how much change they are giving me so I no longer need to work it out it's permanently etched in my brain. Letter has arrived
I'll be back in a bit.....
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Not good.
Got awarded 7 points for daily living and 4 points for mobility which is at lest 13 points more than the DWP twats awarded.
2 points for cooking a meal. Needs to use an aid or appliance.
What aids are there to stop me blowing myself up when I forget to light the gas stove then eventually do?
What aids are there to stop myself from being injured if I get spasms in the arm I'm holding the knife in? Does a suit of armour count and would that be reasonable?
What aid stops me throwing boiling water of hot fat around If I get spasms in my arm?
What aid helps me remember what I'm doing or do I need to write a check list out every time and check the steps off as I do them?
4 points for being able to walk more than 50m but less than 200m even though I am in severe pain and have been known to throw up after only 18m.
No points at all for anything to do with memory loss despite DWP work psychologist report stating otherwise.
Got awarded 7 points for daily living and 4 points for mobility which is at lest 13 points more than the DWP twats awarded.
2 points for cooking a meal. Needs to use an aid or appliance.
What aids are there to stop me blowing myself up when I forget to light the gas stove then eventually do?
What aids are there to stop myself from being injured if I get spasms in the arm I'm holding the knife in? Does a suit of armour count and would that be reasonable?
What aid stops me throwing boiling water of hot fat around If I get spasms in my arm?
What aid helps me remember what I'm doing or do I need to write a check list out every time and check the steps off as I do them?
4 points for being able to walk more than 50m but less than 200m even though I am in severe pain and have been known to throw up after only 18m.
No points at all for anything to do with memory loss despite DWP work psychologist report stating otherwise.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
heartless bastardsNot good.
Got awarded 7 points for daily living and 4 points for mobility which is at lest 13 points more than the DWP twats awarded.
2 points for cooking a meal. Needs to use an aid or appliance.
What aids are there to stop me blowing myself up when I forget to light the gas stove then eventually do?
What aids are there to stop myself from being injured if I get spasms in the arm I'm holding the knife in? Does a suit of armour count and would that be reasonable?
What aid stops me throwing boiling water of hot fat around If I get spasms in my arm?
What aid helps me remember what I'm doing or do I need to write a check list out every time and check the steps off as I do them?
4 points for being able to walk more than 50m but less than 200m even though I am in severe pain and have been known to throw up after only 18m.
No points at all for anything to do with memory loss despite DWP work psychologist report stating otherwise.
fuckers..
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