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Local news saying the police have cordoned off a section of wood near Wild Park, there's a police news conference at 2:30.
Aristocrat's daughter on the run with sex offender and newborn
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A doorbell camera captured audio of them as well as video supposedly.
The filth thought maybe "an ‘anti-police’ or ‘anti-establishment’ individual might have been persuaded to help them", according to Tom Rawsthorne in the Heil.
The filth and other state hunters know exactly what they are doing here.
The message is don't fsck with the state.
Posts at Reddit saying there might be something a teensy bit iffy about hunting people down who weren't suspected of committing any crime whatsoever (and the police said exactly this) have been shadowbanned. Dogwhistle-racist ones saying she "must be out of her mind to have anything to do with a man like that" are being allowed to circulate, though, as of course is anything that says because they were hunted, and then they were arrested, they deserve everything they get. It seems that every scumbag in a position of even petty hierarchical authority is going "whoop whoop whoop", spiced with "I hope the baby is OK". Plus rumours are being spread that they had three children grabbed from them before.
You are witnessing a foxhunt that may yet turn into an honour killing (of her), lynching (of him), and child sacrifice (of their baby) all rolled into one, for a regime that of course has nothing but decency, propriety, proper family life, and the public interest as its motivation.
Let's hope the child doesn't die somewhere because the police are holding the parents captive until they tell them where the child is so they can kidnap him or her.
The manslaughter arrest seems to be a straightforward abuse.
They already seem to have been held for ~40 hours. Doesn't a magistrate have to be involved if it's for more than 36 hours? Or are they using anti-terrorist powers?
A four-season sleeping bag in a tent and boiling water on a camping stove for a hot water bottle and there'll be no problem in the southern England climate in winter.
But logic goes out of the window during Hate Week, especially where an interracial couple is concerned and the man was convicted of rape 34 years ago, she was in a Christian cult (oooh, in Nigeria too) that she walked out of by 2006, she's no better than she ought to be, and oooh, look at the price of that house that someone in her family has some connection with, and didn't her auntie once marry a lord in waiting for the royal family, and blah blah the fscking Daily Mail - why won't it die?
Agreed, £15K isn't much at all. I'd have thought more.
It reminds me of the Julian Assange case. Remember when the Brits played as if they had no intention of grabbing him the moment he left the Ecuadorean embassy so they could try to hand him over to the USA?
Now in this case, the police said all they wanted to do (all 200+ of them) was to ensure mum and kiddie got "medical attention" - as if there is any fscking reason to believe they need it, or the state has any right to give medical attention to an adult who doesn't want it - but they used language such as "on the run" and "turn themselves in" and "convicted violent sex offender" as if they were talking about wanted criminals....and then as soon as they find them they capture them.
Anyway...the 36 hours ran out this morning. If it wasn't extended by a magistrate, and assuming the filth haven't invoked antiterrorism, they're being held unlawfully, right?
Leave them alone. Stop watching them.
You gotta hand it to someone who gives birth in the back of a car and then makes a run for it without telling the state. I'm on their side.
The filth thought maybe "an ‘anti-police’ or ‘anti-establishment’ individual might have been persuaded to help them", according to Tom Rawsthorne in the Heil.
The filth and other state hunters know exactly what they are doing here.
The message is don't fsck with the state.
Posts at Reddit saying there might be something a teensy bit iffy about hunting people down who weren't suspected of committing any crime whatsoever (and the police said exactly this) have been shadowbanned. Dogwhistle-racist ones saying she "must be out of her mind to have anything to do with a man like that" are being allowed to circulate, though, as of course is anything that says because they were hunted, and then they were arrested, they deserve everything they get. It seems that every scumbag in a position of even petty hierarchical authority is going "whoop whoop whoop", spiced with "I hope the baby is OK". Plus rumours are being spread that they had three children grabbed from them before.
You are witnessing a foxhunt that may yet turn into an honour killing (of her), lynching (of him), and child sacrifice (of their baby) all rolled into one, for a regime that of course has nothing but decency, propriety, proper family life, and the public interest as its motivation.
Let's hope the child doesn't die somewhere because the police are holding the parents captive until they tell them where the child is so they can kidnap him or her.
The manslaughter arrest seems to be a straightforward abuse.
They already seem to have been held for ~40 hours. Doesn't a magistrate have to be involved if it's for more than 36 hours? Or are they using anti-terrorist powers?
A four-season sleeping bag in a tent and boiling water on a camping stove for a hot water bottle and there'll be no problem in the southern England climate in winter.
But logic goes out of the window during Hate Week, especially where an interracial couple is concerned and the man was convicted of rape 34 years ago, she was in a Christian cult (oooh, in Nigeria too) that she walked out of by 2006, she's no better than she ought to be, and oooh, look at the price of that house that someone in her family has some connection with, and didn't her auntie once marry a lord in waiting for the royal family, and blah blah the fscking Daily Mail - why won't it die?
Agreed, £15K isn't much at all. I'd have thought more.
It reminds me of the Julian Assange case. Remember when the Brits played as if they had no intention of grabbing him the moment he left the Ecuadorean embassy so they could try to hand him over to the USA?
Now in this case, the police said all they wanted to do (all 200+ of them) was to ensure mum and kiddie got "medical attention" - as if there is any fscking reason to believe they need it, or the state has any right to give medical attention to an adult who doesn't want it - but they used language such as "on the run" and "turn themselves in" and "convicted violent sex offender" as if they were talking about wanted criminals....and then as soon as they find them they capture them.
Anyway...the 36 hours ran out this morning. If it wasn't extended by a magistrate, and assuming the filth haven't invoked antiterrorism, they're being held unlawfully, right?
Leave them alone. Stop watching them.
You gotta hand it to someone who gives birth in the back of a car and then makes a run for it without telling the state. I'm on their side.
Perhaps they'll be explaining why they're continuing to hold them after the 36 hours allowed?
They should be charged or released. Same applies to everyone in police custody.
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It could be nothing they just might of cordoned it off to keep the public away while they search that area. Holding a news conference at 2:30 rather than the end of the day suggests they've got something of note to report though 
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Nope they haven't found the baby.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
They haven't found anything. They've applied to extend the period of detention without charge.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
I’m sure they will, & extensions aren’t some new pulled from their arse tactic as you well fucking know.
Fair point, if I was being around minimum wage to stare at not very interesting screens all day I’d probably be often distracted by my phone etc.
If the baby is in there, Peter Faulding will find it.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Some people are strange.
bimble
floofy
On what grounds are they being detained ?
Bear in mind that the two people against whom the police have insufficient evidence to charge with anything have the responsibility for looking after a small child.
For the record, the police say they have applied for another 36 hours. They said that about 1 hour ago, at about 2.30pm today, by which time they'd already held them for 41 hours given they were arrested around 9.30pm on Monday.
This is a disgraceful case. I hope they have a damned good lawyer who attacks the hunt, what the police have been saying to the media, and the arrests.
A child may be at risk, very grave risk, wholly because of the police actions.
Interesting that the police said they'd applied for an extension, not that they'd been granted one.
What's the basis for why they've been held since the 36 hours expired at 9.30am?
Another question - why have the Met taken over the search?
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
None.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Suspected of murder perhaps?
bimble
floofy
I think that’s questionable is all I’m saying.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
On the grounds of the charges, which include manslaughter.
bimble
floofy
Yes I know that. I am asking, if it becomes clear the baby died whilst they were in custody and not during the prior weeks, still nobody would question the choices made by the police?
Looby
Well-Known Member
I get what you’re saying and that was what I was getting at when I questioned why they weren’t observed and followed.
But, if that’s what’s happened they still left a tiny baby unattended in the cold and dark and could have told the police the minute they approached them where the baby was. I think/hope if the baby was still alive and not with another adult then they might not have been out together.
So it would be absolutely tragic if this is what happened, I don’t think the police bear the responsibility for that baby dying.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
You think they should have let them go? And then followed them, or what? Tbh I know nothing about this case beyond what's been reported, and according to the police the pair are refusing to answer questions as to the infant's whereabouts. Which is their right, but incomprehensible without knowing the facts. (Possibly incomprehensible even then.)
ETA If they were let go and then gave followers the slip - they seem quite good at giving the slip - I don't think the police would have been forgiven for letting them go.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
If these fuckwits will not disclose where this poor baby it's totally down to them, not the police.
Clearly the police thinks the poor little baby is dead, hence the manslaughter
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*arrested not charged, the local rag reported they were charged, but they have amended that report.
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bimble
floofy
Yep, I saw your post, about the police missing an opportunity by swooping in arresting them and then afterwards asking where the baby is, saw that you were thinking the same thing as me.
The couple are very obviously not going to cooperate, which would have been clear very quickly after arrest.
Having a baby without telling medics and the state, followed by evasion of medics and the state.
Also I believe there's something else about the couple that really gets Daily Mail readers going, and it's not the supposed market value of that big house they keep showing photos of.
Are you sure you understand how the arrest system is supposed to work? The police arrest you on suspicion of what they tell you they're arresting you for. Then the moment they have enough evidence to charge you, they're supposed to charge you and then arrange for you to appear in court without delay.
bimble
floofy
Exactly this yes, instead of arrest and then start asking if the baby’s alive.
When they added manslaughter didn’t they explain it by saying ‘they have now been detained a long time so sadly we must consider that the baby may have come to harm’
ETA yep this
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What would you do if someone kidnapped you and said you had to tell them where your child was because they wanted to, cough, check the child was OK, and you had reason to believe their actual intention was to capture your child? If the someone was the police and they could only hold you lawfully for x hours, whether or not you told them anything would depend on whether you'd made arrangements for someone to look after your child for that long, surely?
The police and media are acting extremely nastily in this case, and they may yet achieve an honour killing, lynching, and child death combo - all blamed on the victims, cough cough, Daily Mail, cough.
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