Are you going on the “Hate March”? (11/11/23) - Poll

[YouSir]

Tory politics in 2023

Makes you wonder how they can hold the 'just normal patriotic Brits' line with a straight face really. Does explain how the likes of Farage get such devoted followings though, being able to say the same thing without overtly sieg heiling seems to be an amazingly rare skill on the Right.

 

[YouSir]

I'm not normally a fan of the 'racists are thick drunkards' line, not sure it's helpful. But then at 1:28...

The ones they get out for shit like this almost universally are tbf. The ones writing columns about it less (obviously) so. Although if I was Douglas Murray I'd be hitting the bottle dawn til dusk.

 

[agricola]

If the people who organized the Zoom talk about life in the West Bank (which was projected onto the walls near Helicopter Tower) are on here - thanks, that was really informative. More of that sort of thing should happen.

 

[rubbershoes]

Saw an idiotic comment on youtube (yes, I know) praising the far right and saying palestinians should go home.

 

[two sheds]

You'd imagine there'll be a lot of people examining footage to put names to the criminally violent ones.

 

[quimcunx]

Lots of chanting in the part of the demo we were in. All of it was taken up by other marchers, with one exception. Someone with a loud hailer tried out "Fuck Suella Braverman". This got no takers at all. Funny that

It got modified to "Sack Suella Braverman" which was a little more popular.

I enjoyed some rishi sunak is a wasteman sing song chants.

 

[pbsmooth]

So estimates of 300,000 on the peace, love and unity march and a pathetic 100 old drunk racists fighting with the police. Great stuff.

 

[T & P]

Watching from my living room sofa as millions of people in the country will have also been, the optics of the proceedings today could have hardly been any more positive for the pro-Palestine marchers, and any more damning for the government and the fucking Tory media and commentators.

Absolutely massive popular attendance despite sustained smear media campaign? Check. Completely peaceful and respectful demeanour by the marchers contrary to Cruella Braverman and the Tory press’ predictions? Check. The far right making themselves look like the fucking thick cunts they are? Check. Fallout undoubtedly resulting in further Tory infighting? Check.

Fuck all the fucking cunts concerned

 

[YouSir]

You'd imagine there'll be a lot of people examining footage to put names to the criminally violent ones.

Already seen a couple named on Twitter, usual suspects so most of them have no chance of hiding away really.

 

[Cloo]

I'm literally feeling slightly high on how fucking wrong Braverman was about everything

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[story]

I know it doesn't change anything materially, but I hope knowing that millions of people around the world are marching in their name helps the people of Gaza a little bit. They are not forgotten.

It does hugely.
Cant recall where I heard it, probably on a R4 news podcast.
Those under the cosh do feel the support and really appreciate it.

 

[story]

Saw someone say the Mail were grudgingly saying near a million, normally I guess somewhere between police and organiser estimates but if the Mail are saying that then I'm saying 10 million, easily.

I wonder what the stats are about numbers of those who march, numbers if those who can’t/don’t, numbers who are inspired to march by other demos etc.

 

[Wilf]

I'm literally feeling slightly high on how fucking wrong Braverman was about everything

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I think she played a blinder. Seeking to stop the HATE MARCHERS getting near the Cenotaph and fighting with police, she sent the fash to... oh, yeah...

 

[story]

But the premise was so fucked in the first place.
Why the fuck would people protesting war and mindless slaughter make a detour to shout at statues and monuments that honour those killed in war.

 

[story]

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[brogdale]

Unless my eyes deceive me it really does seem to be Michael Gove:

Just "happened" to be walking through Victoria station at the height of the protests...yeah, right

 

[Cloo]

But the premise was so fucked in the first place.
Why the fuck would people protesting war and mindless slaughter make a detour to shout at statues and monuments that honour those killed in war.

Because the right has this absolute meshugas (pardon my Yiddish) that the Left Just Hate Poppies And War Memorials

 

[story]

Because the right has this absolute meshugas (pardon my Yiddish) that the Left Just Hate Poppies And War Memorials

I know but it‘s just so dumb.

I know they’re dumb. In a way that’s their secret power : too dumb to know better, so on they plough regardless .

 

[Yossarian]

But the premise was so fucked in the first place.
Why the fuck would people protesting war and mindless slaughter make a detour to shout at statues and monuments that honour those killed in war.

Some bizarre leaps in logic were made - if marching in support of a ceasefire on Armistice Day is "disrespectful," then those "disrespectful" marchers must surely be hell-bent on desecrating the Cenotaph

 

[story]

Some bizarre leaps in logic were made - if marching in support of a ceasefire on Armistice Day is "disrespectful," then those "disrespectful" marchers must surely be hell-bent on desecrating the Cenotaph

Still deeply dumb, no?


I mean, I recognise the stupid-logic of it, how they got there.

 

[pbsmooth]

Just "happened" to be walking through Victoria station at the height of the protests...yeah, right

Looking for a reaction to discredit the marchers for his mate Suella.

 

[Yossarian]

Still deeply dumb, no?


I mean, I recognise the stupid-logic of it, how they got there.

Yeah, maybe "incredibly stupid" is a more accurate term than "bizarre"

 

[tony.c]

Looking for a reaction to discredit the marchers for his mate Suella.

Yeah, it'll be in the Daily Heil, 'threatening protesters surround Government Minister Gove'.

 

[story]

Yeah, maybe "incredibly stupid" is a more accurate term than "bizarre"

yeah, bizarre implies some creative thinking, some hitherto unimagined aspect.

This was slouching-towards-Bethlehem stuff

 

[Ax^]

hmm sunak commending hamas supporters on the march


still look like trying to keep barvermen around

 

[Wilf]

yeah, bizarre implies some creative thinking, some hitherto unimagined aspect.

This was slouching-towards-Bethlehem stuff

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[PR1Berske]

It's always the same kind of far right person isn't it? Fresh Fred Perry t-shirt, old jeans, look like go to League Two away games but only to get through more snow than the Winter Olympics. They never look smart do they, in an intellectual way, it's always the look of someone struggling with the pub quiz machine.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I know but it‘s just so dumb.

I know they’re dumb. In a way that’s their secret power : too dumb to know better, so on they plough regardless .

I managed to avoid the far right groups today, but there was one man standing on his own on Vauxhall Bridge Road facing the marchers with a small placard saying 'Show Respect'.

I was tempted to stop and engage. What exactly were we disrespecting?

I'm sure he would have been very confused by the perfectly observed two-minute silence at the end of the march to remember all those killed in conflicts around the world. It came directly after the reading out of a long list of names of children aged 5 and under killed by Israeli bombs in the last month, and I think it was very well-judged.

Go on, fella, explain the disrespect.

They don't know. The world passes them by as the marchers did today with Respect Man, with little engagement in either direction.

 

[PTK]

Massive.

Thanks for this.
I am irritated that I could not be there.
It looks massive.

 

[Wilf]

hmm sunak commending hamas supporters on the march


still look like trying to keep barvermen around

His bullshit did sound a wee bit like trying to say she'd had a point, whereas last week he was flopping about all over the place.... hate marches.... they've got a right to protest... trust the police. Wonder if he and cruella have agreed a temporary truce? At lease till Wednesday.