And next, Syria?

[Don Troooomp]

As you've already stated, that Sarin was used has been confirmed by autopsy reports etc. Mushroom clouds are made up of debris and smoke etc, caused by the impact so it would hardly be colourless.

Who paid for the autopsies?
Why a yellow mushroom when most building materials aren't yellow?
Why is the Russian claim about rebel held sarin invalid when Carla Del Ponte says it isn't?

Searching for truth isn't denying any given set of events happened, it's just searching for truth.

 

[butchersapron]

hat's an excellent link but brings me to another link

April 4, 2017 Khan Sheikhoun Sarin attack

Syria chemical 'attack': What we know



If it was Sarin, why the yellow cloud as Sarin is couourless?
Sarin disperses after 10 to 15 minutes but the US funded press group reported rescue workers taken to hospital after arriving at the scene around 30 minutes after the release.
You have to ask why these eye witness stories don't match the attack details as given by the press. After that, what about Carla Del Ponte's allegations about the Syria free army? Did they do it deliberately or, as her suggestions have been buried, aren't you aware of them?

You simply have not gone through all the info in that collection of pieces i linked to. Because every single objection you offer is dealt with within them.


You're also talking rubbish about Carla Del Ponte.

Leaving the council, del Ponte told Syria’s ambassador that she had been right to quickly reach the conclusion that Assad’s government had used chemical weapons during an attack on the town of Khan Sheikhoun in April.

“It was me, mister ambassador,” she said.

“I said that in my opinion and based on the elements we already had, the Syrian government was responsible. Today we have the confirmation after an official commission’s inquiry. So now, we ask for justice, we ask justice for those victims.”

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

hat's an excellent link but brings me to another link

April 4, 2017 Khan Sheikhoun Sarin attack

Syria chemical 'attack': What we know



If it was Sarin, why the yellow cloud as Sarin is couourless?
Sarin disperses after 10 to 15 minutes but the US funded press group reported rescue workers taken to hospital after arriving at the scene around 30 minutes after the release.
You have to ask why these eye witness stories don't match the attack details as given by the press. After that, what about Carla Del Ponte's allegations about the Syria free army? Did they do it deliberately or, as her suggestions have been buried, aren't you aware of them?

Throw ball into sandpit at high speed you will see some crazy shit maaaaaan.


The rescue workers had masks on but not gloves, so when coming into contact with Sarin that way the symptoms take a lot longer to appear. I have links for that I will find later. Google though.


Sarin comes off the clothes for up to 30 mins too. Again Google.


Edit: I misread. The sarin would have certainly made contact with their skin 30 minutes after from what I have read.

 

[butchersapron]

This really isn't critical inquiry on your part don is it? It's the forwarding of a particular narrative under the guise of just asking questions.

 

[Don Troooomp]

Oh and "get fucked" was an expression of disgust and unwillingness to be involved in the merry dance, one which I stand by.

Not very convincing though, is it?
Surely the way to convince is to provide reliable evidence from well checked out sources, not just resort to fuck off.
I will, at the earliest possible opportunity, check out the four books suggested above in the hope of gaining a better understanding of the general situation, but the attack of April 4th remains dodgy.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Not very convincing though, is it?
Surely the way to convince is to provide reliable evidence from well checked out sources, not just resort to fuck off.
I will, at the earliest possible opportunity, check out the four books suggested above in the hope of gaining a better understanding of the general situation, but the attack of April 4th remains dodgy.

I was looking for personal satisfaction.

 

[butchersapron]

And if it is genuine critical inquiry then it's a fantastic example of the what the conspiraloons and regime supporters set out to achieve with their barrage of lies and smears. Your very start position has been formed and informed by them and their objectives. You've actually been used by the same alt-right types that you rail about on the trump thread.

 

[teqniq]

speaking of lies and smears:

Statement in Support of Feras Fayyad, Kareem Abeed, and 'Last Men in Aleppo'

'Russia wants to hack the Oscars': smear campaign targets Syrian nominee

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Who paid for the autopsies?
Why a yellow mushroom when most building materials aren't yellow?
Why is the Russian claim about rebel held sarin invalid when Carla Del Ponte says it isn't?

Searching for truth isn't denying any given set of events happened, it's just searching for truth.

All as a precursor to the US ousting Assad right? Yeah, I can see they are really trying on that front.

 

[Don Troooomp]

The rescue workers had masks on but not gloves, so when coming into contact with Sarin that way the symptoms take a lot longer to appear. I have links for that I will find later. Google though.

but were on scene at least 15 minutes after sarin would normally have become ineffective, that assuming no wind at all.
A windy day means it would have spread further but dissipated more quickly.

This is also interesting
https://www.globalresearch.ca/khan-sheikhoun-syria-the-nerve-agent-attack-that-did-not-occur/5585818

The problem with the above is the site's owner, Michel Chossudovsky, as his own Russian background leave him open to suggestions of bias.

 

[butchersapron]

but were on scene at least 15 minutes after sarin would normally have become ineffective, that assuming no wind at all.
A windy day means it would have spread further but dissipated more quickly.

This is also interesting
https://www.globalresearch.ca/khan-sheikhoun-syria-the-nerve-agent-attack-that-did-not-occur/5585818

The problem with the above is the site's owner, Michel Chossudovsky, as his own Russian background leave him open to suggestions of bias.

...and there we have it - the link to the far right holocaust denial spreading anti-Semitic shit site. And proof of what i said in my previous post.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

but were on scene at least 15 minutes after sarin would normally have become ineffective, that assuming no wind at all.
A windy day means it would have spread further but dissipated more quickly.

This is also interesting
https://www.globalresearch.ca/khan-sheikhoun-syria-the-nerve-agent-attack-that-did-not-occur/5585818

The problem with the above is the site's owner, Michel Chossudovsky, as his own Russian background leave him open to suggestions of bias.

Fuck sake min

Within a few seconds of sarin-gas exposure, victims will start to experience eye pain, drooling, weakness, vomiting, diarrhea and irregular heart rates. Clothing from victims exposed to the gas will continue to release toxic vapors for 30 minutes, causing more people to come into contact with it. For those exposed to the liquid form of sarin, symptoms can occur anytime from a few minutes to 18 hours after consumption. If exposed to a large amount of sarin in either gas or liquid form, victims can experience more severe and painful symptoms such as convulsions, paralysis, loss of respiratory functions and even death.

Assad’s Chemical Weapons: How Does Sarin Work? | TIME.com

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

And if you don't like that link there's hunners more, hunners. The Wikipedia entry on Sarin has many refs.

 

[LDC]

You've actually been used by the same alt-right types that you rail about on the trump thread.

Exactly the thing that these CPGB-ML lot struggled to comprehend when they started going on about how great Vanessa Beeley/Eva Bartlett were after a local antifa meeting. FFS, talk about apposite idiocy.

 

[LDC]

You're mind blowingly ignorant, going on about dodgy sources and then quoting Global Research. Prick.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

 

[teqniq]

 

[teqniq]

 

[teqniq]

East Ghouta doctor: ‘You imagine the next child you treat could be your own’

 

[redsquirrel]

...and there we have it - the link to the far right holocaust denial spreading anti-Semitic shit site. And proof of what i said in my previous post.

Just below the surface as usual.

 

[teqniq]

Reports coming out of East Ghouta are 'fake news' according to the Russian envoy to the UN. Yeah right.

Russia blocks UN resolution on eastern Ghouta ceasefire

 

[teqniq]

Here is some more of that 'fake news' folks

 

[butchersapron]

Let's make this clear - this 100 dead civilians a day is not even from an actual invasion of East Ghouta. That is yet to come. This is just softening up. Russia is currently blocking ceasefire moves in the UN.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Thread

 

[butchersapron]

And here are the assadists talking of the same women:

"oooh these whores of Ghouta, I hope they all die like rabid dogs, I hope they all burn..all of them, women men anad their babies..."

In Ghouta, I think they should first hunt all the women & rape them, then pour gasoline & burn them all, then they should wipe out all of Ghouta and leave nothing alive

"By the willingness of God, you will be raped in front of your children and men".

No mercy, no ceasefire no nothing...kill them all, kill their children first..bcz they drink from their moms' poisonous milk... "burn them all"

My morals don't let me feel sad for the children of East Ghouta, if I could kill them myself, I wouldn't think twice..." #GhoutaIsBleeding #Syria

"Long live [Assad general Suhail Hassan], may all residents of Ghouta be slaughtered, may they all become quadriplegic, deaf, mute..every time my house vibrates from the bombs landing nearby in Ghouta my heart feels love & butterflies"..

"fuck your your children, the sons of whores...By the will of Allah, you will see them burn in front of their eyes, may you see your daughters get raped right in front of you"

"Please annihilate all of them in Ghouta, the kids before the grown ups..bcz these kids will grow up to be Muslim Brothers and ISIS"

"God willing there will be no child left behind...kill the children before adults let them all go to hell and get virgins instead of their donkey wives"

 

[butchersapron]

Guess which side the above scummers live in:

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Dear God

Just noticed Raed Fares had been tweeting he had gone quiet for a while(well prior to jan, I use Twitter sporadically):

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

 

[teqniq]

Thread worth a read

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Thread worth a read

He's taking the time to like and respond to tweets too. Hope he makes it