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Part 2

Isis enforcement

Isis installs “emirs” who monitor operations and negotiate with the
regime through mediators. There is an emir for the plant, a religious
emir and another from the Hisba, the group’s morality police. Workers
say the Hisba emir at Tuweinan, known as Sheikh Haseeb, patrolled the
plant to enforce strict Islamic practice. Anyone breaking the rules
would receive 75 lashes.

Sheikh Haseeb also allowed gunmen to threaten employees. They
particularly targeted the plant’s two dozen Christians, even though
workers say Hesco had already paid Isis a poll tax for them in gold.
“One guy pointed his knife at an engineer saying, ‘By God we will
slaughter you like a sheep,’” one Hesco employee recalled in an
interview via WhatsApp. “I never saw him or any of the other Christian
employees again.”

The director of operations at Tuweinan, Taha al-Ali, was known as the
Syrian Gas Company’s mediator with Isis. A pious man, he was popular
with his colleagues, but workers say Isis members suspected him of being
a regime collaborator.

When the emir discovered that gas was being diverted to Arak, a plant
then held by the regime but now under Isis control, he accused Mr Ali of
stealing for the Assad government. He was dragged away by guards.
Workers say he returned disheveled three months later, on the day they
were forced to witness his execution.

“He was accused of mocking Islam and being a loyalist of the regime,”
said one colleague who recounted the event in a telephone interview.
“The gunmen shot him in the head, one bullet each. Then Sheikh Haseeb
came up and shot him in the stomach. It was terrifying.”

Workers say Tuweinan has continued to function despite the violence. But
slowly the number of workers has dropped from 1,500 to about 300 as many
have fled.

Many regime supporters insist these dealings are necessary to preserve
infrastructure and keep the lights on, and some agreements are
extensions of pre-existing deals made with rebel groups that controlled
the areas before Isis took over last summer. “There’s no conspiracy, but
as the regime guys say, it’s necessary complicity,” said the Syrian
energy company owner.

Another oil company official who works with the Syrian regime, says
juggling these deals has become a preoccupation for the oil ministry.
“Before it was [rebel groups] Jabhat al-Nusra or the Islamic Front.
Nowadays it’s representatives for Isis,” he told the FT in Beirut.
Not all Isis-controlled plants are as miserable as Tuweinan. Employees
say treatment is better at the “Conoco” plant in eastern Deir Ezzor.
Syria’s biggest gas producer, the plant was named for the US company
that first developed it. Employees say its emir, Abu Abdulrahman
al-Jazrawi, is a Saudi Arabian with years of experience who holds
training sessions and gives workers a barrel of condensate each month in
addition to the state salary. A barrel can sell for about $100 — often
more than their wages.

Many workers also say that even finding work at regime-controlled
facilities is no guarantee of safety, because they are targeted by the
jihadis. Marwan worked at the Ebla plant in government-controlled
Faruqlus, near Homs, where Isis blew up pipelines and set off a car bomb
that killed his manager in April.

“Every day, we went over evacuation plans,” he said. “I’m Sunni — if I
fled too quickly, the Alawites would accuse me of being a conspirator.
If I waited too long, Isis could catch me.”

The nearby Shaer gasfield, which produces nearly half Syria’s
electricity, was taken over by Isis twice in 2014 before the regime
recaptured it. Everyone working there disappeared and is presumed dead,
according to Marwan and other employees.

When nearby Palmyra fell to Isis this summer, Marwan says many of his
friends working at Hayyan, near Shaer, wanted to flee. “The army wouldn’t
let them. They said who ever tried to run will be shot dead.”

Back at Tuweinan, Ahmed found events like Mr Ali’s killing too much to
bear. “He was one of the few people I’ve met in life I would say was an
amazing human being,” he said. A few months later, he and some other
workers smuggled themselves across the border to Turkey, crossed the
Mediterranean, and trekked to Germany. All say they are now considered
fugitives for abandoning state posts.

Officials at the plant have been unable to find someone willing to
replace Mr Ali. But the deal goes on.
 
Part 2

Isis enforcement

Isis installs “emirs” who monitor operations and negotiate with the
regime through mediators. There is an emir for the plant, a religious
emir and another from the Hisba, the group’s morality police. Workers
say the Hisba emir at Tuweinan, known as Sheikh Haseeb, patrolled the
plant to enforce strict Islamic practice. Anyone breaking the rules
would receive 75 lashes.

Sheikh Haseeb also allowed gunmen to threaten employees. They
particularly targeted the plant’s two dozen Christians, even though
workers say Hesco had already paid Isis a poll tax for them in gold.
“One guy pointed his knife at an engineer saying, ‘By God we will
slaughter you like a sheep,’” one Hesco employee recalled in an
interview via WhatsApp. “I never saw him or any of the other Christian
employees again.”

The director of operations at Tuweinan, Taha al-Ali, was known as the
Syrian Gas Company’s mediator with Isis. A pious man, he was popular
with his colleagues, but workers say Isis members suspected him of being
a regime collaborator.

When the emir discovered that gas was being diverted to Arak, a plant
then held by the regime but now under Isis control, he accused Mr Ali of
stealing for the Assad government. He was dragged away by guards.
Workers say he returned disheveled three months later, on the day they
were forced to witness his execution.

“He was accused of mocking Islam and being a loyalist of the regime,”
said one colleague who recounted the event in a telephone interview.
“The gunmen shot him in the head, one bullet each. Then Sheikh Haseeb
came up and shot him in the stomach. It was terrifying.”

Workers say Tuweinan has continued to function despite the violence. But
slowly the number of workers has dropped from 1,500 to about 300 as many
have fled.

Many regime supporters insist these dealings are necessary to preserve
infrastructure and keep the lights on, and some agreements are
extensions of pre-existing deals made with rebel groups that controlled
the areas before Isis took over last summer. “There’s no conspiracy, but
as the regime guys say, it’s necessary complicity,” said the Syrian
energy company owner.

Another oil company official who works with the Syrian regime, says
juggling these deals has become a preoccupation for the oil ministry.
“Before it was [rebel groups] Jabhat al-Nusra or the Islamic Front.
Nowadays it’s representatives for Isis,” he told the FT in Beirut.
Not all Isis-controlled plants are as miserable as Tuweinan. Employees
say treatment is better at the “Conoco” plant in eastern Deir Ezzor.
Syria’s biggest gas producer, the plant was named for the US company
that first developed it. Employees say its emir, Abu Abdulrahman
al-Jazrawi, is a Saudi Arabian with years of experience who holds
training sessions and gives workers a barrel of condensate each month in
addition to the state salary. A barrel can sell for about $100 — often
more than their wages.

Many workers also say that even finding work at regime-controlled
facilities is no guarantee of safety, because they are targeted by the
jihadis. Marwan worked at the Ebla plant in government-controlled
Faruqlus, near Homs, where Isis blew up pipelines and set off a car bomb
that killed his manager in April.

“Every day, we went over evacuation plans,” he said. “I’m Sunni — if I
fled too quickly, the Alawites would accuse me of being a conspirator.
If I waited too long, Isis could catch me.”

The nearby Shaer gasfield, which produces nearly half Syria’s
electricity, was taken over by Isis twice in 2014 before the regime
recaptured it. Everyone working there disappeared and is presumed dead,
according to Marwan and other employees.

When nearby Palmyra fell to Isis this summer, Marwan says many of his
friends working at Hayyan, near Shaer, wanted to flee. “The army wouldn’t
let them. They said who ever tried to run will be shot dead.”

Back at Tuweinan, Ahmed found events like Mr Ali’s killing too much to
bear. “He was one of the few people I’ve met in life I would say was an
amazing human being,” he said. A few months later, he and some other
workers smuggled themselves across the border to Turkey, crossed the
Mediterranean, and trekked to Germany. All say they are now considered
fugitives for abandoning state posts.

Officials at the plant have been unable to find someone willing to
replace Mr Ali. But the deal goes on.
Brilliant work by the journalists...
 
Any idea whose drone it was Turkey shot down?

What's surprising is how intact it is. I would have thought if a military jet shot the thing down it would be in small pieces?
 
Any idea whose drone it was Turkey shot down?

What's surprising is how intact it is. I would have thought if a military jet shot the thing down it would be in small pieces?

it looks pretty much like a radio controlled plane you could buy in your local model shop for a few hundred quid - its very much a local system, line-of-sight, short range and unarmed. it might have live streaming of video images, or it might just have recorded images that are downloaded when it lands. that will depend on the technical skill and phone networks available.

its not (i'm pretty sure) a Russian Air Force UAV, (the Russian Army will use something like this, as all modern armies do, but as the Russian Army isn't operating on the Syrian-Turkish border...).it almost certainly belongs to one non-state group or another, and while it might sound all very amateurish, a picture or video stream is a picture or video stream, if it tells you what you need to know it doesn't matter whether it comes from a £15 million MQ-9 or a £300 dads' shed special.

the lack of visible damage is interesting, but not important - at the height something like this operates, a fighter could force it into the ground by just flying over it.
 
The Russians et al say all their drones are accounted for . Strikes me as little more than erdogan throwing imaginary shapes . After being made to look weak by the previous, deliberate in my view, Russian incursions .
 
Syrian army having a chat with IS

" do you like my new flip flops ? "

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Ah yes- because they said they'd attack 'ISIS', but they're attacking Al Qaeda and other looks-like-walks-like-fights-like folk, and people Brzinski called American assets. I really should go to my room and think about what I have done.

They never ever said they were there solely to attack IS ,it's a NATO strawman. It seems those you are arguing against are reading from the NATO handbook. Certainly seems to be their main frame of reference . Definitely their " rule book ", whatever NATOs definition of what's right and proper is .
Which brings us back to the issue of Putin inviting them to join his and Assads multi national co alition and not the other way about . Btw it now seems ,un officially at least, the Iraqis have joined it too . There's a lot of Iraqi militia on the ground in Syria now. Plausible deniability as in theyre militia and not regular troops, but close enough as a signal of approval for the wider shebang .

There's repeated claims of Cuban involvement as well, but as much as I'd like it to be true the sources don't seem very trustworthy .
 
Hmm..I see the mods at Reddit have now unbanned the 3 pro Syrian news sites they'd earlier banned for reporting bad news for " the revolution", after a stream of accusations of barely hidden moderator bias . That includes Al masdar. The reddit sub though retains the dubious distinction of being the only place in the world , outside of the caliphate, we're its strictly forbidden to refer to Al Qaeda and IS as terrorist organisations . Make of that what you will . I think polite people prefer the term " revolutionaries ".
 
How do we even know the guy in the picture is daesh and if he is how do we know he's not some poor sod thats been forced to join unless his family are killed or whatever?

we don't, and we're not meant to - its standard CR bollocks, pull any old shit out of his arse (err... i mean RT), and if he posts it enough times he think people will get bored of debunking it and it will become part of the accepted discourse.

the simple answer of course is to just look at the details of the photo. one beardy fat bloke in trainers, one fat bloke in a white vest, shorts and flip-flops, and two other, different to both the first and each others, uniforms. does that look like an Army to you?
 
How do we even know the guy in the picture is daesh and if he is how do we know he's not some poor sod thats been forced to join unless his family are killed or whatever?

I'm not up for wallowing in cruelty and sadism either, but do you deploy the same capacity for empathy with the 74% of Syrians that voted for Assad in 2014?
 
we don't, and we're not meant to - its standard CR bollocks, pull any old shit out of his arse (err... i mean RT), and if he posts it enough times he think people will get bored of debunking it and it will become part of the accepted discourse.

the simple answer of course is to just look at the details of the photo. one beardy fat bloke in trainers, one fat bloke in a white vest, shorts and flip-flops, and two other, different to both the first and each others, uniforms. does that look like an Army to you?

Why bring RT into it?
 
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