Anarchists sabotage railway signalling in Bristol

[butchersapron]

The headline "Anarchist Terror Cell" is a fucking corker!

It gets better:

Bristol arson attack linked to anarchist terror network

 

[lazyhack]

I work here. I get what I get regardless of writing that or not.

IAF have carried out about 30 odd arson/sabotage actions around Bristol/Nottingham, it's a real thing. Across Europe, there's plenty more operating under the name. You may not like it, but they do exist.

 

[DotCommunist]

evil ringmaster discovered a way to herd cats and now they do his evil bidding

 

[butchersapron]

I work here. I get what I get regardless of writing that or not.

IAF have carried out about 30 odd arson/sabotage actions around Bristol/Nottingham, it's a real thing. Across Europe, there's plenty more operating under the name. You may not like it, but they do exist.

Don't tell me via your c4 report what is a real thing. I live here. I know what's a real thing. And how does it being your job excuse Anarchist Terror Cell and anarchist terror network you clown?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

it's more like an insurrectionist minor phobia thing

 

[lazyhack]

Is the IAF not an anarchist terror network? What would you call a group of people operating with unity of purpose to carry out bombings across several countries? Or do you just think they don't exist?

 

[butchersapron]

Is the IAF not an anarchist terror network? What would you call a group of people operating with unity of purpose to carry out bombings across several countries? Or do you just think they don't exist?

You're going to try and defend it?

No, of course it's not an anarchist terror network? That you need even ask the question. Please do the bit where you elide the contintenal groups together with these clowns. IT'S A TERROR NETWORK!!!!! again.

 

[butchersapron]

They say the job doesn't change you. They're liars.

 

[lazyhack]

Weirdo.

 

[butchersapron]

10 years ago you were laughing at people who wrote what you are now defending and writing. Well done.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I'm pretty sure you don't pass your Terrorism GCSE until you've actually terrified a few people. Generating mild irritation, loud tutting or even an unusually large number of dog-on-string allusive letters in the Post would all earn a big, fat Fail.

 

[lazyhack]

I wouldn't get too nostalgic for ten years ago.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

If the vice report linked to at the bottom of that c4 article is anything to go by, IAF have knee capped some blokey in Italy, and sent letter bombs to MEPs. Sounds a bit terroristey to me. Maybe not the uk branch, but the Europe wide group. Fuck knows how much of a real "thing" this is, though. I'm dubious about some of the reports of manifestos and meeting transcripts referred to there.

They're not exactly the red brigade, but they are starting to come across more and more like the angry brigade, who have certainly been described fairly un controversially as terrorists.

What is a fucking terrorist, anyway? Could the government use terror legislation against these people, for their actions so far? Anonymous communiques, cells, damage to infrastructure. These are aspects of terrorist acts.

 

[butchersapron]

See, this is the problem whelan. This shit above.

 

[lazyhack]

Of course it is terrorism, if you want to argue whether or not its supportable that's fine, but as a series of crimes they're terrorist actions.

At least dissident republicans are less moralistic about their actions and how you refer to them, anarchist remain an overly sensitive bunch of souls.

 

[Citizen66]

Is it a 'branch' though? Or just a name that anyone can set up under and run with?

Jon-of-arc

 

[lazyhack]

Urgh, Angry Brigade tried that one, but it is clearly a very small group of people.

 

[Citizen66]

Of course it is terrorism, if you want to argue whether or not its supportable that's fine, but as a series of crimes they're terrorist actions.

Can you point to examples of arsonists and vandals being charged under the prevention of terrorism act?

 

[butchersapron]

Of course it is terrorism, if you want to argue whether or not its supportable that's fine, but as a series of crimes they're terrorist actions.

At least dissident republicans are less moralistic about their actions and how you refer to them, anarchist remain an overly sensitive bunch of souls.

Amazing the person who either wrote or allowed 'anarchist terror network" and ' anarchist cell' to go under his name accuses people who think this is shit of ...wait for it...moralism. Instead of the pure neutral objective stuff that presents 'anarchist terror network" and ' anarchist cell' .

 

[JHE]

Of course it is terrorism, if you want to argue whether or not its supportable that's fine, but as a series of crimes they're terrorist actions.

Yes, it's terrorism, but it's not premier league terrorism. It's not third or fourth division either. It's more Sunday league amateur kickabout stuff.

 

[DaveCinzano]

...Maybe not the uk branch...

Clearly I was referring to what has been happening in Bristol for the past 4+ years.

 

[Citizen66]

Yes, it's terrorism, but it's not premier league terrorism. It's not third or fourth division either. It's more Sunday league amateur kickabout stuff.

It's Vauxhall Conference Vandalism.

 

[lazyhack]

Can you point to examples of arsonists and vandals being charged under the prevention of terrorism act?

See Tarnac 9, etc.

 

[butchersapron]

See Tarnac 9, etc.

Excellent, law in a different country and so not PTA. I see why you were headhunted.

 

[DaveCinzano]

All this waffle notwithstanding, I'm pretty certain it's the first and last time Aufheben will get a namecheck in the Post.

 

[lazyhack]

Excellent, law in a different country and so not PTA. I see why you were headhunted.

Do you think POT wouldn't be used against political arsonists?

 

[butchersapron]

Do you think POT wouldn't be used against political arsonists?

What's that got to do with you claiming that it has been?

 

[Citizen66]

See Tarnac 9, etc.

Not a very water tight example. So vandalism by a political group becomes terrorism? Who was terrorised?

 

[JHE]

All this waffle notwithstanding, I'm pretty certain it's the first and last time Aufheben will get a namecheck in the Post.

Mentioned because some top Anarcho-Wotsit theorist allegedly works for Plod. It's a funny old world.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

Clearly I was referring to what has been happening in Bristol for the past 4+ years.

Fair enough. I'm not looking to criticise or argue. Just thought it worthy of further discussion.