Anarchists sabotage railway signalling in Bristol

[Random]

That's what spray on deodorant is for. When you just don't give a shit but you want to go out .

When you just don't give a shit, but don't want to work, in my case.

 

[butchersapron]

Or when you don't give a shit but want to look hardcore in dingdongs case.

 

[Pickman's model]

Regardless of what I personally feel they are, in their heads at least, engaging in class warfare.

Attacking businesses
Attacking the police
Attacking the means to spread propaganda
...and numerous other actions.

What they're trying to propagate are more affinity groups to muck in with these simple repeatable actions. It's a tactic, I hope they don't see it as a strategy.

a problem is that the state has a simple, repeatable tactic which they use for people who do this sort of thing, it's called prison and anyone up for this sort of thing's looking at something like 10 years at a guess. they may be brave - i don't know - but they're clearly rather daft. the sort of people from whom they seek support or at least neutrality are generally the very people they deride as sell-outs.

 

[DrRingDing]

a problem is that the state has a simple, repeatable tactic which they use for people who do this sort of thing, it's called prison and anyone up for this sort of thing's looking at something like 10 years at a guess. they may be brave - i don't know - but they're clearly rather daft.

I agree.

 

[DrRingDing]

the sort of people from whom they seek support or at least neutrality are generally the very people they deride as sell-outs.

That depends on who you think they're trying to appeal to.

 

[DrRingDing]

I didn't say that it had - though i think that is true - which only adds weight to my criticisms of the actions and the attitude behind it and slaughters your defence of the same. Now stop whining and say something.

You're a bit old and haggard to be thinking the world revolves around you.

 

[Pickman's model]

That depends on who you think they're trying to appeal to.

it also comes down to what butchers was saying about pro-working class politics. do their politics tend to unite or divide their 'target audience'? i'd say that they would tend to unite people, but not the way the activists would like. simply put, not enough people would currently see the need for this tactic. things haven't got to the point where something like the angry brigade would advance matters, rather it would retard it.

 

[butchersapron]

You're a bit old and haggard to be thinking the world revolves around you.

You're a bit daft to be posting deflection stuff like this. Write something justifying your contradictory positions, say something political dingdong. Or bottle it.

 

[DrRingDing]

it also comes down to what butchers was saying about pro-working class politics. do their politics tend to unite or divide their 'target audience'? i'd say that they would tend to unite people, but not the way the activists would like. simply put, not enough people would currently see the need for this tactic. things haven't got to the point where something like the angry brigade would advance matters, rather it would retard it.

Again I agree.

 

[butchersapron]

Again I agree.

You might to have a word with yourself after reading the drivel that you've posted on this thread and the argument that you started again today - and then ask yourself why you bottled it so embarrassingly.

 

[Pickman's model]

Again I agree.

so i'm not entirely sure how you find something admirable or progressive in the actions under discussion.

 

[butchersapron]

so i'm not entirely sure how you find something admirable or progressive in the actions under discussion.

I fear that you may be a 'questionable nay-sayer' and so do not have the right to know what the secret cliques that involve 'more than bristol' owe to anyone at all - or similar load of deflection from dingding.

 

[DrRingDing]

You're a bit daft to be posting deflection stuff like this. Write something justifying your contradictory positions, say something political dingdong. Or bottle it.

I'm not going to condemn some people who are risking a lengthy stint in gaol just as they're actions don't fit snuggly with my view 100%.

 

[Pickman's model]

I fear that you may be a 'questionable nay-sayer' and so do not have the right to know what the secret cliques that involve 'more than bristol' owe to anyone at all.

am i? how did that happen?

 

[butchersapron]

am i? how did that happen?

I think by pointing out that dingdong posted up a load of drivel with no political argument behind it.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm not going to condemn some comrades who are risking a lengthy stint in gaol just as they're actions don't fit snuggly with my view 100%.

if it was 70, 80 or indeed 90% then you might have a point. but at the moment they are not advancing matters, you have agreed they are retarding them. as such, their actions don't seem to fit into the views you've expressed at all.

 

[Pickman's model]

I think by pointing out that dingdong posted up a load of drivel with no political argument behind it.

 

[DrRingDing]

Guess what frillyapron it ain't all about you. Go out and have a fucking pint.

 

[butchersapron]

I'm not going to condemn some people who are risking a lengthy stint in gaol just as they're actions don't fit snuggly with my view 100%.

You say that you support it. You say that you criticise it. You have done neither in reality. I have pointed out how this affects people that you claim to be comrades of - you say that you still support it as a pro-working class action. You can't say why. You say, the the anti-working class nature of them is pointed out, that you criticise them. You can't say why.

 

[butchersapron]

Guess what frillyapron it ain't all about you. Go out and have a fucking pint.

It's far far more about me than you you irresponsible prick.

 

[DrRingDing]

if it was 70, 80 or indeed 90% then you might have a point. but at the moment they are not advancing matters, you have agreed they are retarding them. as such, their actions don't seem to fit into the views you've expressed at all.

I think if they chose their targets better. Dropped the flowery, romantic, continental communiques and spoke succinctly with humour and spirit they wouldn't be so derided.

 

[Pickman's model]

I think if they chose their targets better. Dropped the flowery, romantic, continental communiques and spoke succinctly with humour and spirit they wouldn't be so derided.

from what i've read they show scant sign of listening to criticism, no matter how constructive.

 

[butchersapron]

I think if they chose their targets better. Dropped the flowery, romantic, continental communiques and spoke succinctly with humour and spirit they wouldn't be so derided.

So, if it was something else entirely it would be great. Meanwhile it's shit and you support it's counter-productivity and call anyone else who suggests otherwise questionable (or have secret criticisms). You utter tit.

 

[DrRingDing]

So, if it was something else entirely it would be great. Meanwhile it's shit and you support it's counter-productivity and call anyone else who suggests otherwise questionable (or have secret criticisms). You utter tit.

If you really had such a weighty point you wouldn't need to stoop to twisting semantics.

I didn't say anyone who suggests the actions are counter productive are questionable.

 

[butchersapron]

If you really had such weighty point you need to stoop to twisting semantics.

I didn't say anyone who suggests the actions are counter productive are questionable.

Yes you did - you set the barrier at people like me - a local anarchist directly having shit as result - as 'questionable nay-sayers' who you would blindly defend the action and the people involved against. From the fens. Thanks for the solidarity.

 

[DrRingDing]

Yes you did - you set the barrier at people like me - a local anarchist directly having shit as result - as 'questionable.

No I didn't go and re-read the post.

Right, I'm heading to the pub to enjoy this summers evening.

 

[butchersapron]

No I didn't go and re-read the post.

Right, I'm heading to the pub to enjoy this summers evening.

I did, i always do that before quoting stuff back at idiots. From your first position of unconditional defence you bottled it into 'having criticisms' but not ones you would put before "questionable nae sayers." - identifying that group - from your fen holdout - as people like me, local anarchists directly impacted.

You can't even leg it properly.

 

[butchersapron]

that's not fair to lenin and you know it.

leninists it is!

 

[DrRingDing]

leninists it is!

You're the one behaving like a fucking Leninist. This is the way it is and anything else is sacrilege. As it's always been with you.

 

[butchersapron]

You're the one behaving like a fucking Leninist. This is the way it is and anything else is sacrilege. As it's always been with you.

Defend your daft posts. It should be easy.