Anarchist Bookfair 2013 October 19th

[DaveCinzano]

(never heard of her before now)

You disgust me

 

[butchersapron]

I am now laughing:

What can be done about Anarchism? This was my first experience of anarchists outside of my close knit activist group. I am hoping we are the majority and we can eliminate the patriarchal fucks intent on maintaining power and control structures otherwise I am seriously going to have to rethink my identity.

Talk about undermining all that bollocks about identity - the historical side of it which is very powerful- - and turning it intoconsumer choice, and once you make your choice you have statutory rights. These people.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

"Kill All Men" seems to be an intersectional hashtag trend thing like "fuck cis people" was a while back.

ETA: Oh actually, here goes: http://stavvers.wordpress.com/2013/05/07/kill-all-men/

"On the other hand, it’s pretty difficult to mention SCUM (or indeed just cry “kill all men”) without the misogynists crawling in, crying misandry."

 

[butchersapron]

It's like Polly toynbee asking what are we anarchists to do after having tea at the ritz with laurie. I'll tell you, go away. have a re-think. Understand what you so lightly profess as identity.

 

[TopCat]

Were there any actual fights this year? You know, with people actually hitting each other?

 

[Pickman's model]

"Kill All Men" seems to be an intersectional hashtag trend thing like "fuck cis people" was a while back.

ETA: Oh actually, here goes: http://stavvers.wordpress.com/2013/05/07/kill-all-men/

"On the other hand, it’s pretty difficult to mention SCUM (or indeed just cry “kill all men”) without the misogynists crawling in, crying misandry."

why stop at men?

 

[Pickman's model]

Were there any actual fights this year? You know, with people actually hitting each other?

you know it's years since there was a *fight*, it's almost always handbags

 

[chilango]

 

[butchersapron]

"Kill All Men" seems to be an intersectional hashtag trend thing like "fuck cis people" was a while back.

ETA: Oh actually, here goes: http://stavvers.wordpress.com/2013/05/07/kill-all-men/

"On the other hand, it’s pretty difficult to mention SCUM (or indeed just cry “kill all men”) without the misogynists crawling in, crying misandry."

Don't do it then posho.

 

[Jean-Luc]

Were there any actual fights this year? You know, with people actually hitting each other?

Yes, the Irish-Australian bloke was pushed around by some men half his age. Ageism?

 

[The39thStep]

a cheap holiday in other people's misery

I like to think that I brought them a bit of comradely cheer in these difficult times. Shall I ask them to keep the bunting up for when you arrive?

 

[Pickman's model]

I like to think that I brought them a bit of comradely cheer in these difficult times. Shall I ask them to keep the bunting up for when you arrive?

tell them to keep it up for when i leave

 

[butchersapron]

Yes, the Irish-Australian bloke was pushed around by some men half his age. Ageism?

What they should have got people his age to do it?

 

[Pickman's model]

What they should have got people his age to do it?

run him out of town tarred and feathered on a telegraph pole

 

[The39thStep]

Sam Ambreem (never heard of her before now)

In the 70s I went to a play about rape which had the unifying rallying cry of 'all men are rapists'. I made my excuses and left.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I made my excuses and left.

 

[treelover]

The crowd around us got bigger, comrades very much on our side and the others, men who seemed utterly heartbroken (pissed off) that we were chanting “kill all men”.

mid 80's redux, thank god I missed that bit and am not involved in anything now, pity the young comrades having to cope with this rubbish

btw, wonder what the women who chanted the same in the 80's are doing now?

 

[treelover]

What can be done about Anarchism? This was my first experience of anarchists outside of my close knit activist group.

Bizarre, how long has she been around?, if its not long, some humility is in order.

 

[Pickman's model]

mid 80's redux, thank god I missed that bit and am not involved in now, pity the young comrades having to cope with this rubbish

btw, wonder what the women who chanted the same in the 80's are doing now?

something more sensible i hope

 

[butchersapron]

After talking to those of my lot who are now back the general sense was: great meetings/shit people. It's usually shit meetings/great people.

 

[treelover]

what about the benefit workshops, well attended, etc?

 

[jakethesnake]

It certainly had a very studenty vibe and was quite different to the last one I went to at Conway Hall. The Culture Shock gig was good though.

 

[butchersapron]

One for all you budding new statesman interns reading this - never, and i mean never, start an article (or anything) with:

Strolling out of the bookfair yesterday in search of a Veggies burger

 

[smokedout]

what about the benefit workshops, well attended, etc?

not packed, but pretty decent attendance and some new faces. not much can be achieved really in an hour, but good to meet some folk from other places and some good new ideas emerging. none of the shit that people are discussing on twitter, didnt see any of that but then I only went to the two welfare workshops and then was in the pub

 

[Wilf]

For anybody like me who couldn't make the London Bookfair, I've just seen the Manchester and Salford one is 23rd November:
http://bookfair.org.uk/

 

[imposs1904]

i didn't run into anyone except steph and my flatmate, i wasn't there for very long tho tbf. some of the talks looked interesting but i wasnt sure i could sitthrough the whole thing so just went to wetherspoons

i bought a paper off the SPGB though, i told them that i'd met some of their the comrades at an ICCC meeting and then they said "oh were you the one who did the blog about the icc meeting" i was

ah, the wonders of google alert.

 

[cesare]

Bizarre, how long has she been around?, if its not long, some humility is in order.

"This was my first experience of anarchists" ie a few hours.

 

[TopCat]

Any more links the mighty blogosphere where the various antics of sat get discussed?

 

[revol68]

“Your culture,” he spat, “has invaded my culture for the last 800 years!” I must admit, I was a little confused by this. I might be British by birth but it certainly wasn’t my choice

In the same piece where she explains that there is no problem with chanting "Kill All Men".

I've been reading radical feminists rants about Trans this morning and whilst they are absolute tosh, they do at least have the benefit of logical consistency.

 

[DaveCinzano]

“Your culture,” he spat, “has invaded my culture for the last 800 years!” I must admit, I was a little confused by this. I might be British by birth but it certainly wasn’t my choice

I think that your problem is that you're trying to use cones to do the job of rods.