Fozzie Bear
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A sustained critical pisstake of LP and her milieu would be more satisfying than taking legal action.
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SpineyNorman
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It won't get the accusations withdrawn though will it? I'm actually more pissed off now she's apologized to others and not me - she's singled me out because I don't have journos fighting my corner.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
...and pats on the back from half the screws.
Fozzie Bear
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She hasn't really apologised to Lovedetective, tbf.
And I'm not convinced that taking legal action will get the accusations withdrawn either.
ETA: Send her an email. If you don't get a response within 48 hours send me a PM and I'll try to take it up with a couple of people who I know that know her.
SpineyNorman
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I guess there's only one way to find out.
Fozzie Bear
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Not sure if you saw my edit: ETA: Send her an email. If you don't get a response within 48 hours send me a PM and I'll try to take it up with a couple of people who I know that know her.
love detective
there's no love too small
stating that she doesn't know if i'm a racist or not isn't really an apology mate!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Hugo Schwyzer, as far as I can see, is someone who gets to stand on platforms like this:
because he used to take part in domestic violence but no longer
http://studentactivism.net/2012/01/22/hugo-schwyzer-is-still-doing-harm/
hence meaning he "shatters gender myths"
Wow, comes across as a guy who likes to construct personal myths while supposedly shattering gender myths.
Love some of the comments on your link, especially the "there's no such thing as misandry, only misogyny and misanthropy" one, though.
I agree with Spanky, it's not the way I'd choose to do things. Also when I used to get those solicitor's letters from my ISP for dicking about on Usenet, or downloading on napster, I threw them in the bin without reading. They don't really have any clout.
Still if you want to go that way then g'luck!
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
get you
Fozzie Bear
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But....but cLoWnFiSh....
This, I used to get SLs all the time, took absolutely no notice until they issue a summons, 99% never did and the other 1% never went to court. Seriously unless you are super rich and want to really go after someone, forget civil law, it's there to pretty much guarantee that only the very very wealthy can make it work for them.
If she doesn't just bin it, she'll frame it and put on her toilet wall and laugh at you*. Don't give her the opportunity.
* well this is what I'd do
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
TBH you getting involved as an intermediary is as likely as anything else to be received by her in the same manner as a courtesy call from Dessie Noonan
Fat lot of good it has done me.
I know that bloke from my days at uni. He's not a cunt but I can think of reasons why he would prompt LP to call him one. Being vastly more informed and experienced in left-wing politics is one.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Sadly, "corrective" often also means "coercive".
Fozzie Bear
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TBH you getting involved as an intermediary is as likely as anything else to be received by her in the same manner as a courtesy call from Dessie Noonan
That makes it sound a lot more dramatic than it needs to be.
TBH you getting involved as an intermediary is as likely as anything else to be received by her in the same manner as a courtesy call from Dessie Noonan
have you ever met Fozzie?
Not quite the same...
But this is what's so monstrously wrong about it all, she knows damn well she can fling this shit at people, and because they weren't born into wealth and privilige like she was that there's little they can do to counter it. She has the platform in the media, and the money to go through the courts if needs be, and so she feels like she can abuse and slander those who are beneath her without risk of comeuppance.
The calculated arrogance of it is sickening, professionally decrying privilige on the one hand then using it as a shield with the other. She deserves her comeuppance, so good luck Spiney whatever you choose to do.
My position is unrelenting merciless war on the narcissistic liberal left, and the rest of the spoilt oxbridge brats in her milieu, no fuckin' quarter.
Fozzie Bear
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*hands on hips* Well that's my three minutes as a hardman RUINED, Spanky. Thanks a lot!
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Since when did facts need to elide with 1,500 words of pure Penace?
This is the New New Journalism! Poetry of Action! Nothing but pen in hand, eCig in mouth and well-digested class privilege in belly - taking the good fight to the enemy, gettin' paid by The Man to write about The Man whilst bein' against The Man, kindof!!! Yeah!!!
cesare
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make sure you write the email to her in green ink
I tend to agree on an individual level, there are other (less costly) ways of effectively making the point. But I still think it might be worth the IWCA (as an organisation) having the benefit of some advice.
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But....but cLoWnFiSh....
Seriously I'm not arguing it's right, just that's the way it is. Threatening someone with a libel writ when you haven't got £30,000+ that you can just throwaway if necessary to back it up is real paper tiger stuff, it's picking a fight you can't win imo.
But good luck to you SN with whatever you choose to do.
Personally I think the compilation of the thread that someone suggested is pretty deadly, it's been an eye-opener to me, I started off thinking leave her alone, she may be a bit of a wannabe but she's on the right side. If it's hosted via U75 it will get high up the google ranks. Let people read it and decide for themself, it's revenge but it's also informing people and that has a wider value.
SpineyNorman
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I know - sorry pal, don't mean you're off the hook but the way she's singled me out now is really fucking irritating.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
What he's failing (surprise surprise!)to acknowledge is that Laura isn't "doing", she's a flaneur, an observer who contributes little, but merely moves through the scenery, absorbing and absorbed by the ambience. That she then writes about what she's seen, albeit mostly glossed with post hoc observations and fictions, is merely a further act of nose-thumbing at those whose existence and actions feed her writing.
SpineyNorman
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Thanks, I've sent her an email - I'll let you know what happens.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Recto-lingual intersectionism.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
All three of you in the same room?
Twas only a phone booth.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Not me, not in my lifetime.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
The difference between a kiss on the cheek or a punch in the throat, generally.
sunnysidedown
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Legal action? Jesus Christ 
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