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Afghanistan: Mission Accomplished
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Gerry1time
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Ah that’s lovely to see. Thanks to liberal interventionism, those Afghans have put down their guns and set up a boutique floristry concern, and by the look of those hipster beards, Kabul will have a Hoxton / Dalston vibe before we know it. At least it all worked out ok in the end then.
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Gerry1time
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Apologies, I sit corrected, post edited.
Lol, sorry... I regretted posting that as soon as i hit post
Gerry1time
Did a wee in Dirac's toilet
Not at all, I’m genuinely interested to learn, and keen to get things right!
Gramsci
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Robin Cook did oppose Iraq War.
Feeling I get is that John Smith died then Blair got leadership. Labour was already ahead in polls. Blair got to be PM. The specifically Blairite project took a while to bed in.
Ie to sideline people like Cook. He must have had an enormous amount of pressure from Whips not to stand up in parliament and oppose the war.
So I would say the New Labour Blairite era took time.
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Afghanistan has come out of it a lot better than most places the US and UK turn their sights on - not a massive difference really apart from the corpses and maimed. Whereas Libya for example....nevermind Iraq
gosub
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wdym ? Cereal Killer Cafe Kabul hasn't opened yet
Humberto
Take me up to Monto
You'll have to tell me about that sometime. I wouldn't trust the bastards if my life depended on it any more.
spring-peeper
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A quick little derail. I thought I'd post you one of those warm and fuzzy stories that is going around mainstream media here in Canada.
www.ctvnews.ca
Earlier stories have been about retrofitting (?) planes to carry more passengers.
Sadly, Canada's planes can not be refueled in the air. They must leave from a base and make they have enough fuel to return.
People are heavy, so they must limit the number of people on board.
The article does go on to mention that this is an election year. Trudeau called it early, assuming he would win.
Tories are doing far better than the liberals right now, so I assume we will be getting more heart warming "Hooray for Canada" stories.
Canadian special forces operate outside walls of Kabul airport to rescue Afghan allies
Canadian special forces are currently operating outside the walls of Kabul airport, Canadian officials revealed Monday, working to get people on flights out of Afghanistan.
Earlier stories have been about retrofitting (?) planes to carry more passengers.
Sadly, Canada's planes can not be refueled in the air. They must leave from a base and make they have enough fuel to return.
People are heavy, so they must limit the number of people on board.
The article does go on to mention that this is an election year. Trudeau called it early, assuming he would win.
Tories are doing far better than the liberals right now, so I assume we will be getting more heart warming "Hooray for Canada" stories.
Are the new Taliban administration waiting for the deadline next week regarding stopping all movement of people away from Afghanistan. Possibly rubbing their hands at the prospect of gaining control of the billions in funds held by the former Afghanistan government, frozen by the US and allies in return for allowing more people to leave. Or are they contemplating massacres of all those they view as collaborators?
I fear for the bloodshed that this debacle will soon unleash.
I fear for the bloodshed that this debacle will soon unleash.
bimble
floofy
I don't understand who has put this together, it is on a government web page but seems actually useful. You can see if yr local area (England only) is looking for particular kind of help / donations for refugees.
www.help-refugees-uk.service.gov.uk
Where you can help - Help refugees in the UK
Nice to see some positivity (not) from the British government before the G7 meeting later today.
Extension of Afghanistan evacuation deadline unlikely, says Wallace Extension of Afghanistan evacuation deadline unlikely, says Wallace
Extension of Afghanistan evacuation deadline unlikely, says Wallace Extension of Afghanistan evacuation deadline unlikely, says Wallace
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heres a couple of links ive just googled at random - limited but you get the idea
Iraq
Instability in Iraq | Global Conflict Tracker
Learn about the world's top hotspots with this interactive Global Conflict Tracker from the Center for Preventive Action at the Council on Foreign Relations.
www.cfr.org
Libya -
Why is Libya so lawless?
Libya has been beset by chaos since its long-serving ruler Col Muammar Gaddafi was ousted in 2011.
www.bbc.co.uk
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
There is a certain macabre humour in watching them trying not to come out and say what everyone else knows, The decision to leave will be made by Joe Biden and everyone else will go along with it because they have no choice.
I expect that this coming weekend will be absolutely chaotic as there is a final mad rush to the airport and there will be more tragic footage doing the rounds on twitter.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Biden has announced they intend to complete operations by 31st August, following the G7 zoom meeting headed by Johnson, wanting an extension & at least supported by France & Germany.
I take my hat off to the Sky reporter interviewing Johnson.
Johnson - waffle, waffle, waffle, waffle, waffle...
Man from Sky says, 'so, you have basically failed.'
Johnson - waffle, waffle, waffle, waffle, waffle...
I take my hat off to the Sky reporter interviewing Johnson.
Johnson - waffle, waffle, waffle, waffle, waffle...
Man from Sky says, 'so, you have basically failed.'
Johnson - waffle, waffle, waffle, waffle, waffle...
RainbowTown
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'I don’t want them to kill me like they killed my boyfriend': Gay Afghans hide from the Taliban
Two gay people in Afghanistan explain in depth why they fear for their lives under their new rulers and are desperately trying to flee abroad
inews.co.uk
Shocking and terrifying. But not surprising.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Because they agreed to
Well yes, but surely they could say, give us two more weeks or we'll bomb the fuck out of you?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh. But they probably don't have special forces on the ground to do special recon for them, so they know they're hitting Taliban rather than wedding parties or big rocks.
eatmorecheese
Free the bimbo koala Kenny
There's no way that could go tits up.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I think they've always hated each other, they just hid it better before
I assume they've still got special forces there. The SAS is still there (according to the Mail
) The yanks have fucked this up but I assume they've still got a wee bit of leverage.
weltweit
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I don't think the Taliban are amateurs, far from it, they have sustained a war for 20 years and inflicted lots of losses on their enemy through the use of roadside IEDs etc, they and their ilk booted the British out and the Russians and now the USA. Far from amateurish.
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