A thank you to Brexiteers.

[bimble]

Yes, Karl but exactly which 'policies' are you specifically referring to?

This was in the post you're replying to? Which said the most likely areas he thinks will be effected are working time limits, agency workers rights, and the laws around redundancy.
Which is the same as it says in here for instance and here and all over the internet if you google brexit & workers rights, those plus health & safety, holiday pay, and some of the anti-discrimination laws.

All of the things that came from the EU and are irksome constraints for UK employers basically.

"If Britain seeks some form of continuing trade relationship with the EU, then it might be necessary to retain some, if not all, of the rights and protections required by the EU. However, there is a growing consensus that at least some employment rights will be weakened.
There are also strong indications as to the rights which are most at risk.. it seems we are likely to see the erosion of rights related to: working time and paid holidays; agency workers; protection against some forms of discrimination; health and safety; and collective consultation on issues such as redundancy.."

 

[The39thStep]

This was in the post you're replying to? Which said the most likely areas he thinks will be effected are working time limits, agency workers rights, and the laws around redundancy.
Which is the same as it says in here for instance and here and all over the internet if you google brexit & workers rights, those plus health & safety, holiday pay, and some of the anti-discrimination laws.

All of the things that came from the EU and are irksome constraints for UK employers basically.

"If Britain seeks some form of continuing trade relationship with the EU, then it might be necessary to retain some, if not all, of the rights and protections required by the EU. However, there is a growing consensus that at least some employment rights will be weakened.
There are also strong indications as to the rights which are most at risk.. it seems we are likely to see the erosion of rights related to: working time and paid holidays; agency workers; protection against some forms of discrimination; health and safety; and collective consultation on issues such as redundancy.."

thanks, Karl

 

[TopCat]

Has the Brexit fishing promise come true?

Boris Johnson said his Brexit deal would mean lots of extra fish caught in the UK - has this happened?

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[mojo pixy]

The more we fish, the sooner there won't be any fish left in the sea. That problem isn't going away.

 

[Karl Masks]

thanks, Karl

happy to help

 

[TopCat]

Tony Connelly, RTE’s Europe editor, has a report revealing new details of what he says has been agreed between the UK and the EU on the Northern Ireland protocol.

He says the EU has accepted the UK demand that goods going from Britain to Northern Ireland that are not meant to cross the border into Ireland should be treated separately from goods that are destined for Ireland (which is in the EU). Crucially, Connelly says, this NI-only “green lane” will cover sanitary and phytosanitary rules, as well as customs requirements.

Goods going through the “green lane” will be subject to minimal checks and scrutiny, and Connelly says this is because the EU now has access to GB customs data in real time. He reports:

According to how the IT-based system will work, information in real time will show if there are any suspicious movements between GB and Northern Ireland, and if red flags are raised lorries can be checked by UK Border Force …
[The senior EU official] would not be drawn on whether goods entitled to use the green lane would be exempt from all customs declarations, including the need for traders to pre-fill so-called commodity codes electronically in advance, and SPS formalities.
Given that EU officials will be entitled to download information on the content and form of goods going through the virtual green lane, it is assumed that a degree of data will be required.

 

[two sheds]

Will this be enough for philosophical though, or will he apply his veto and block it?

 

[Ax^]

either way you can still keep you manky UK sausages for yourself


no to British sausages no surrender

 

[gosub]

either way you can still keep you manky UK sausages for yourself


no to British sausages no surrender

Oi! Show a bit more respect for our emulsified high fat offal tubes!

 

[The39thStep]

Will this be enough for philosophical though, or will he apply his veto and block it?

Probably on the bus from Peckham as we speak

 

[philosophical]

Will this be enough for philosophical though, or will he apply his veto and block it?

Two different systems, a border.
Nothing fundamental changes.

 

[TopCat]

Confirming the above report.

Negotiators make breakthrough in Northern Irish protocol dispute

Agreement on food and animal health checks ‘close to being done’, but no progress on trickier issues

www.theguardian.com

 

[TopCat]

I hope philosophical does not take up arms to stymie the process.

 

[philosophical]

I hope philosophical does not take up arms to stymie the process. View attachment 362222

The process is fiddling about a bit at the edges regarding some goods crossing the created border in the Irish Sea.
Whether doing that means anything beneficial remains to be seen.
There are no checks between, for example, Suffolk and Norfolk, so Northern ireland is being treated differently to other parts of the UK. Which as you know was not what was voted for in 2016.
The movement of people to and fro unchecked between the EU and the UK has not particularly been addressed, it is a wide open border on the island of Ireland.

 

[brogdale]

The movement of people to and fro unchecked between the EU and the UK has not particularly been addressed, it is a wide open border on the island of Ireland.

At last, some good news.

 

[The39thStep]

At last, some good news.

As one door opens ....

 

[TopCat]

The process is fiddling about a bit at the edges regarding some goods crossing the created border in the Irish Sea.
Whether doing that means anything beneficial remains to be seen.
There are no checks between, for example, Suffolk and Norfolk, so Northern ireland is being treated differently to other parts of the UK. Which as you know was not what was voted for in 2016.
The movement of people to and fro unchecked between the EU and the UK has not particularly been addressed, it is a wide open border on the island of Ireland.

The north of Ireland is different from the UK. It’s part of Ireland and was stolen and needs to be returned asap.

 

[Artaxerxes]

It’s quite funny that it’s taken this long to get here though and was considered a total red line by several PMs and the DUP.

Paisleys ghost will be fuming I hope, but then he always was.

 

[Raheem]

It’s quite funny that it’s taken this long to get here though and was considered a total red line by several PMs and the DUP.

Paisleys ghost will be fuming I hope, but then he always was.

It will presumably yet have to be passed by the commons, though. Difficult for Sunak if he has to rely on opposition votes.

 

[philosophical]

The north of Ireland is different from the UK. It’s part of Ireland and was stolen and needs to be returned asap.

It is also part of Europe if you're talking in a geographical sense.
The defeated Jacobites were aided by the French so you could argue that Ireland had an international outlook for centuries.
Either way, the ballot paper didn't say that Northern Ireland should be treated any differently after the referendum.

 

[Pickman's model]

It is also part of Europe if you're talking in a geographical sense.
The defeated Jacobites were aided by the French so you could argue that Ireland had an international outlook for centuries.
Either way, the ballot paper didn't say that Northern Ireland should be treated any differently after the referendum.

I think you'll find the UK is part of this geographical Europe. And the jacobites were defeated by the army of a German Prince who also happened to be king of England and you won't get many monarchs more European in outlook than that

 

[TopCat]

It is also part of Europe if you're talking in a geographical sense.
The defeated Jacobites were aided by the French so you could argue that Ireland had an international outlook for centuries.
Either way, the ballot paper didn't say that Northern Ireland should be treated any differently after the referendum.

You have little to moan about now. Go whinge about the Catford shopping Centre.

 

[ska invita]

You have little to moan about now. Go whinge about the Catford shopping Centre.

hasnt passed yet and as it rests on the European Court of Justice as arbiter it is still very possible that the headbangers will try and block it

 

[Ax^]

of course the head banger will try to block it

 

[TopCat]

hasnt passed yet and as it rests on the European Court of Justice as arbiter it is still very possible that the headbangers will try and block it

Try yes maybe, succeed no chance.

 

[ska invita]

Try yes maybe, succeed no chance.

looks like it will go to a vote in the commons so who knows

 

[Artaxerxes]

“The only way to make brexit work is to continue to make Northern Ireland, a scared and integral part of the UK and it’s sovereignty remain part of the EU in all but name. A borderless country aside from with the UK.”


Totally worth the last 8 years chaos just for the giggles

 

[Artaxerxes]

The Conservatives don’t actually give a shit about Norn I know but still.

 

[Ax^]

“The only way to make brexit work is to continue to make Northern Ireland, a scared and integral part of the UK and it’s sovereignty remain part of the EU in all but name. A borderless country aside from with the UK.”


Totally worth the last 8 years chaos just for the giggles

hmm they fucked over the north to keep the orange men happy again

business and the population of north ireland were quite happy with the set up as recent polling has shown

but lets keep trying to appease the DUP AKA the Orangemen who will hate this see as it as treating ni as seperate to the rest of the UK

these are the same fucker who locked the whole of the north ireland assembley for how long now

 

[philosophical]

You have little to moan about now. Go whinge about the Catford shopping Centre.

Yeah, the leave you voted for is going so well isn't it?
Are you obsessed with Catford or something?
Is it where you imagine your name comes from?
You voted leave you destroyed things, maybe you believe it was the first step towards your imagined utopia, I think you're going to be wrong about that.