But all that can also happen in the EU. I don’t see it as progressive whatsoever. Remainers appear to be blind to what happened with eg Greece when it defaulted on loans.
A thank you to Brexiteers.
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Raheem
Well-Known Member
You're taking the piss, right?
I'm not taking the piss about forced austerity on Greece when it defaulted on a loan. Are you taking the piss?
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Is it happening in the EU, or is it now more likely to happen here because brexiteers were lied to by people looking to do just that? Sure the EU could change policy, but thatodesn't mean it will
Raheem
Well-Known Member
I think I might be about to start.
If you really don't understand how EU law works, I can explain, but otherwise stop dicking around.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Why would there be? Surely the aim of unions is to act on matters that members can agree on, not meddle in stuff that will divide those members
Well I know it did nothing to prevent the Trade Union Act 2016 when ballot thresholds were raised. Despite it apparently protecting rights. And I know it forced austerity on Greece when it defaulted on a loan, despite it being the land of progression.
You haven't said anything!
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
which policy are you referring to?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
It was a rhetorical question tbh . However, in response, there were votes in most of the unions over remain or leaving that set policy. The TUC was for remain.Why would there be? Surely the aim of unions is to act on matters that members can agree on, not meddle in stuff that will divide those members
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
I know. Should never have happened. There was some such attempt to get my branch to take sides. I said fuck that.
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bimble
floofy
How come the Uk is predicted to grow more quickly than the EU in the coming years ?
Is it because we will have better workers rights than them and a higher standard of living or is it because deregulation across the board but particularly in 'the city' (as the gov has said they plan to do to cash in on our new brexit freedoms) will increase profits.
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Raheem
Well-Known Member
I read the IMF report today, and it mentions the UK a few times but doesn't actually say anything much specifically about the UK economy, apart from giving growth projections for 2023 and 2024.
It doesn't go into any analysis of how Brexit has affected anything or say anything about growth rates in 2027.
I don't know where Smokeandsteam got those things from, but it doesn't seem to be the IMF report.
bimble
floofy
ok but, why would anyone predict that the Uk will 'grow' more quickly than them now, having not done so for years . It's got to be deregulation what else could it possibly be? Which is great news if you're a bank, or a chicken seller.
What possible other reason? This is the brexit dividend that the we got brexit done party is all about.
What possible other reason? This is the brexit dividend that the we got brexit done party is all about.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
It's not the UK doing well, it's the euro zone doing shit
bimble
floofy
why. Why would the uk do better than them. Deregulation. What else. Oh sorry you post was just a pointless crappy quip never mind.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
No, it's not the UK doing better, it's them doing worse.
You can’t attain Socialism or anything close within the EU. That’s what the Lexit position is.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
A thank you to Brexiteers.
Certain workers' rights are determined by the EU, and it protects those rights. That leaves governments with a lot of scope to grant or deny other rights. I think that, within the next 18 months or so, certain rights that were previously protected by the EU are likely to be removed...
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not a trot
Well-Known Member
Not much sign of socialism outside the EU.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
The lexit thing was for a chance. And brexit hasn't played itself out yet, it's not like pinkish social democracy a la corbyn was going to be the thing that socialists voted brexit for
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
my post wasn't pointless, hoping you'd be able to understand it, well my bad
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Yes, Karl but exactly which 'policies' are you specifically referring to?A thank you to Brexiteers.
Certain workers' rights are determined by the EU, and it protects those rights. That leaves governments with a lot of scope to grant or deny other rights. I think that, within the next 18 months or so, certain rights that were previously protected by the EU are likely to be removed...
Or within it.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
plenty of fools voted for it regardless
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Workers rights
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