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A thank you to Brexiteers.

Whats happened to the idea, that a few posters on here got excited about, that the army were going to start driving ?

Who got excited about it? Actually, I don’t care - forget the question. That’s just a deflection from a subject that’s starting to get a bit serious. It’s all well and good if Wetherspoons run out of beer lol but medicine shortages are another matter.

What Brexit benefits justify this worsening situation? The answer is none.
 
It’s definitely all going well so far.
No problem with bin collection in the London borough I work in.

That might be because the waste collection is run in-house rather than by an outside contractor, as so many (including the borough where I live) now are, or it might be because the vast majority of staff are directly employed rather than agency workers with zero job security, as is the case in many councils.

The way these things are organised actually does have an effect on the resilience of services when significant shake ups like Brexit or Covid come along.

Rather than just making endless sarcastic comments about "things going well" it might be an idea if posters attempted to think about some of the underlying issues which make these current problems so widespread.

My suspicion is that the reality of sectors like waste collection is so far removed from the awareness of some* that they are unable to actually think about things properly and instead end up parroting what they've read in the media or on Twitter.

* not just you Bimble, but you're certainly one of those I have in mind. Hope that doesn't come across as too grumpy ;)
 
I had a binman boyfriend once, long time ago but was decent money & hours and a good job for people who aren’t into having to smile on command.
Maybe it’s something to do with the way things are organised that a bunch of places are having a bin man shortage whilst other places aren’t, could also be that the drivers are seeing the much better money being offered now by the supermarkets etc and are going for those jobs instead, idk.
 
No problem with bin collection in the London borough I work in.

That might be because the waste collection is run in-house rather than by an outside contractor, as so many (including the borough where I live) now are, or it might be because the vast majority of staff are directly employed rather than agency workers with zero job security, as is the case in many councils.

The way these things are organised actually does have an effect on the resilience of services when significant shake ups like Brexit or Covid come along.

Rather than just making endless sarcastic comments about "things going well" it might be an idea if posters attempted to think about some of the underlying issues which make these current problems so widespread.

My suspicion is that the reality of sectors like waste collection is so far removed from the awareness of some* that they are unable to actually think about things properly and instead end up parroting what they've read in the media or on Twitter.

* not just you Bimble, but you're certainly one of those I have in mind. Hope that doesn't come across as too grumpy ;)
Presume you are still in Totters & are lucky not to be affected yet but the drivers of the bin lorries might be tempted away to earn more driving something other than a bin lorry. Still all is good with you at the moment so there is not a problem elsewhere?
"I have no empty shelves what are people moaning about" :thumbs:
 
Presume you are still in Totters & are lucky not to be affected yet but the drivers of the bin lorries might be tempted away to earn more driving something other than a bin lorry. Still all is good with you at the moment so there is not a problem elsewhere?
"I have no empty shelves what are people moaning about" :thumbs:

I realise you struggle to understand actual written argument, but I have never said that as all is good with me there can't be a problem elsewhere.

What I am arguing and will continue to argue is that it's ridiculously simplistic to simply attribute any and all problems to Brexit, as if other aspects of the economy and wider society are somehow irrelevant.

But it's no surprise to see you immediate pop up to completely misrepresent my post as you have done so many times before.
 
I realise you struggle to understand actual written argument, but I have never said that as all is good with me there can't be a problem elsewhere.

What I am arguing and will continue to argue is that it's ridiculously simplistic to simply attribute any and all problems to Brexit, as if other aspects of the economy and wider society are somehow irrelevant.

But it's no surprise to see you immediate pop up to completely misrepresent my post as you have done so many times before.
Thanks for the patronising crap. That really helps.
So when people say 'I know what I voted for' did they mean this shit?
Or is it a case of those who voted against Brexit warned about all this shit & "Project Fear" was banded about? Flu vaccines where I live have been postponed. My elderly mum will get hers but the next two clinics have been postponed.
Can you or anyone else give a positive of Brexit. This thread is over 200 pages and am still waiting for a proper positive.
 
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