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A thank you to Brexiteers.

Smokeandsteam said:
It a simple question: do you support Nick, Steve and Tom?

We’ve had endless posts here from you and others about milkshake shortages, empty shelves, the crisis facing shoppers trying to feed their families etc caused by Brexit.
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oh, I tried to give you a proper reply but all you wanted is yes i support nick and steve or no i don't.
I don't care either way tbh, whether temp visas are issued or not.
I don't think many people would come rushing over here now anyway even if they were magnanimously allowed to for a few weeks or months or whatever.

As said, I do think we will be fine for lorry drivers in a couple of years but reckon that food production in the UK is mostly going to die a death, apart from at the luxury end, if no more cheap foreign labour. Which doesn't bother me much but will be crap for many.
eta actually it does bother me, its shit, and environmentally incredibly stupid, to be moving towards importing more food from the other side of the world.
 
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MrSki said:
Okay I will stop calling you Andy Pandy but you claimed one of the benefits of Brexit was that you had managed to negotiate more H&S reps. I don't understand what this has to do with Brexit but I applaud you for being a TU Rep. Been there & done that & it is a thankless task.
Take a compliment when it is given. Feel free to list other benefits of Brexit that you might come across.
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You're either deliberately lying or you're too stupid to understand what I said.

What I said was I'd successfully negotiated for three extra first aiders.

And I never claimed that this was the result of Brexit.

Either way, you and your shit trolling are going ignore.
 
Smokeandsteam said:
Do you support the calls raised by Nick, Steve and Tom to solve the Brexit food shortages? We’ve had pages of evidence here of the extent of the problem and the unprecedented hardships ordinary people are enduring - much of it from you. Here is a solution. Do you support it?
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There isn't any alternative right now. We aren't going to get the drivers trained up quickly enough, even assuming there are enough willing applicants who'd all pass muster.

Unfortunately the government aren't interested in it and just want magical thinking to apply/

Though we won't be rejoining any time soon it is clearly the only sensible solution to a problem that didn't need to exist
 
glitch hiker said:
There isn't any alternative right now. We aren't going to get the drivers trained up quickly enough, even assuming there are enough willing applicants who'd all pass muster.

Unfortunately the government aren't interested in it and just want magical thinking to apply/

Though we won't be rejoining any time soon it is clearly the only sensible solution to a problem that didn't need to exist
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Thanks glitch hiker some honesty from your side, good to see some preparedness to face up to the near starvation of ordinary Britons and a clear plan emerge.
 
So far the position seems to be:

Support for the Co-op CEO, NFU and food processors employers position: Badgers and Glitch Hiker
Exhaustion from posting memes about the 'Brexit food crisis' meaning a position on the new plan to solve the 'Brexit food crisis' is not available: Ski
Despite posting about it endlessly I'm not that bothered: bimble

Any more for any more?
 
Smokeandsteam said:
So far the position seems to be:

Support for the Co-op CEO, NFU and food processors employers position: Badgers and Glitch Hiker
Exhaustion from posting memes about the 'Brexit food crisis' meaning a position on the new plan to solve the 'Brexit food crisis' is not available: Ski
Despite posting about it endlessly I'm not that bothered: bimble

Any more for any more?
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Yes, the point that your question is pretty irrelevant.
The neoliberal state will ensure that any costs involved in supply-side management of the labour market will fall directly on workers/taxpayers, whether or not the UK state happens to be a member state of the EU.
 
Smokeandsteam said:
So far the position seems to be:

Support for the Co-op CEO, NFU and food processors employers position: Badgers and Glitch Hiker
Exhaustion from posting memes about the 'Brexit food crisis' meaning a position on the new plan to solve the 'Brexit food crisis' is not available: Ski
Despite posting about it endlessly I'm not that bothered: bimble

Any more for any more?
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Ignores the question completely: Smokeandsteam :thumbs:
 
Smokeandsteam said:
Tom Bradshaw, the Vice President, of the National Farmers Union has pointed out that ‘there is only one pool of labour’ and that tempting back the 13,600 EU drivers and meat processors should help fix the problem.
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Does 'Tom' have any practical details about how these 3,600 EU drivers and meat processors will be "tempted back"?
 
Supine said:
Food choice goes down
Drivers wages go up
Food prices go up, which disproportionally effects the poor more than anyone. Especially the ones who lost their jobs due to business relocations.

Socialist nirvana? Don’t think so.
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Rearrange those words into a familiar saying. Answer:
The poor , especially those who lost their jobs due to business relocation , shouldn’t support strikes for improved wages or indeed wage increases because food prices will go up and food choices will go down which will disproportionately affect them more than anyone . Socialist nirvana ? Don’t think so.
 
The39thStep said:
Rearrange those words into a familiar saying. Answer:
The poor , especially those who lost their jobs due to business relocation , shouldn’t support strikes for improved wages or indeed wage increases because food prices will go up and food choices will go down which will disproportionately affect them more than anyone . Socialist nirvana ? Don’t think so.
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So are you saying that the poor will now be generally better off - or worse off - under Brexit?
 
The39thStep said:
Rearrange those words into a familiar saying. Answer:
The poor , especially those who lost their jobs due to business relocation , shouldn’t support strikes for improved wages or indeed wage increases because food prices will go up and food choices will go down which will disproportionately affect them more than anyone . Socialist nirvana ? Don’t think so.
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Incoherent ramble. Tackle my actual words - all of them - or don’t bother.
 
Smokeandsteam said:
Thanks glitch hiker some honesty from your side, good to see some preparedness to face up to the near starvation of ordinary Britons and a clear plan emerge.
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To be clear, Brexit is and was and will always be, a fucking bad idea. THere was never a lexit option and there isn't one on the horizon. IMO the working class are not best served by a right wing power grab from the worst people in power. Now we are cut off from comrades on the continent and the larger economy. The whole thing is a fucking shitshow
 
editor said:
Does 'Tom' have any practical details about how these 3,600 EU drivers and meat processors will be "tempted back"?
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I'm guessing his answer would involve the free market and wage rates in Britain compared to, say, Romania. While you're here, do you support the nascent plan to solve the 'Brexit food crisis'?
 
12.30 pm update on the employers plan to feed Britian:

Support for the Co-op CEO, NFU and food processors employers position: Badgers and Glitch Hiker
Exhaustion from posting memes about the 'Brexit food crisis' meaning a position on the new plan to solve the 'Brexit food crisis' is not available: Ski
Despite posting about it endlessly, I'm not that bothered: bimble
Err, well what do you think about the employer led plan to solve these 'Brexit food shortages' that we've been posting about and endlessly drawing attention to: various posters
Pending: Editor
 
Supine said:
Typical brexiteer. Screw everything up and then look to remainers to solve the issues :D
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The poor , especially those who lost their jobs due to business relocation , shouldn’t support strikes for improved wages or indeed wage increases because food prices will go up and food choices will go down which will disproportionately effect them more than anyone . Socialist nirvana ? Don’t think so.
 
Smokeandsteam said:
12.30 pm update on the employers plan to feed Britian:

Support for the Co-op CEO, NFU and food processors employers position: Badgers and Glitch Hiker
Exhaustion from posting memes about the 'Brexit food crisis' meaning a position on the new plan to solve the 'Brexit food crisis' is not available: Ski
Despite posting about it endlessly, I'm not that bothered: bimble
Err, well what do you think about the employer led plan to solve these 'Brexit food shortages' that we've been posting about and endlessly drawing attention to: various posters
Pending: Editor
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Dont forget Supine's Daily Express type economic analysis
 
The39thStep said:
Dont forget Supine's Daily Express type economic analysis
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Apologies:

Support for the Co-op CEO, NFU and food processors employers position: Badgers and Glitch Hiker
Exhaustion from posting memes about the 'Brexit food crisis' meaning a position on the new plan to solve the 'Brexit food crisis' is not available: Ski
Despite posting about it endlessly, I'm not that bothered: bimble
Err, well what do you think about the employer led plan to solve these 'Brexit food shortages' that we've been posting about and endlessly drawing attention to: various posters
Pending: Editor
Support with the caveat that the employers plan pays close attention to appropriate methods that keep wages and prices low (for the benefit of the poor): Supine
 
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