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A thank you to Brexiteers.

The boss of co-op, has today called for a relaxation of visa rules to help fill the 100,000 HGV job vacancies

Tom Bradshaw, the Vice President, of the National Farmers Union has pointed out that ‘there is only one pool of labour’ and that tempting back the 13,600 EU drivers and meat processors should help fix the problem.

The British Meat Processors Association chief executive Nick Allen blamed the Government’s immigration policies for staffing challenges faced by many companies. Meat industry workforce talent pool is turning into a talent puddle - BMPA

A simple question for continuity remain: do you agree with Nick, Steve and Tom?
 
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The39thStep said:
Damn the Tories and their second referendum campaign.
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Cameron's promise of a referendum in 2013 was certainly an effort to unify the Conservative vote ahead of the 2015 election - there were also predictions that it would cleave the Labour vote.

As with the 35% of 2010 Labour voters in Scotland who voted ‘yes’ to independence, the Labour Party currently offers little to the 27-33% of 2015 Labour voters in Britain who want to leave the EU. After they vote against EU membership in 2016/17, will this segment of the Labour electorate continue to vote Labour at the next general election? Or will the EU referendum teach these voters that opposition to the EU membership is incompatible with support for the Labour Party? Labour cannot afford to lose one-quarter to one-third of the people who voted for them in 2015. Yet, there is a very strong chance that Labour could be sleep-walking into another referendum-induced election catastrophe.

ukandeu.ac.uk

The electoral implications of Labour’s EU referendum stance - UK in a changing Europe

While a great deal of energy has been devoted to predicting the result of the EU referendum, few have discussed its implications...
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Yossarian said:
Cameron's promise of a referendum in 2013 was certainly an effort to unify the Conservative vote ahead of the 2015 election - there were also predictions that it would cleave the Labour vote.

As with the 35% of 2010 Labour voters in Scotland who voted ‘yes’ to independence, the Labour Party currently offers little to the 27-33% of 2015 Labour voters in Britain who want to leave the EU. After they vote against EU membership in 2016/17, will this segment of the Labour electorate continue to vote Labour at the next general election? Or will the EU referendum teach these voters that opposition to the EU membership is incompatible with support for the Labour Party? Labour cannot afford to lose one-quarter to one-third of the people who voted for them in 2015. Yet, there is a very strong chance that Labour could be sleep-walking into another referendum-induced election catastrophe.

ukandeu.ac.uk

The electoral implications of Labour’s EU referendum stance - UK in a changing Europe

While a great deal of energy has been devoted to predicting the result of the EU referendum, few have discussed its implications...
ukandeu.ac.uk ukandeu.ac.uk
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Yeah, I don’t think it was the Tories who undermined Corbyn, destroyed Labour’s momentum in the polls and split Labour with a poisonous second referendum campaign though was it..
 
Smokeandsteam said:
The boss of co-op has today called for a relaxation of visa rules to help fill the 100,000 HGV job vacancies

Tom Bradshaw, the Vice President, of the National Farmers Union has pointed out that ‘there is only one pool of labour’ and that tempting back the 13,600 EU drivers and meat processors should help fix the problem.

A simple question for continuity remain: do you agree with Steve and Tom?
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It depends if you mean right now, this week, or in the future.
I think lorry drivers is a different kettle of fish from meat processors.
We absolutely need to have lorry divers, so in time, with conditions better and new UK drivers passing their tests that will be fine.
My guess is that by then we will not really have a meat industry though, maybe not much of fruit and veg one either, or only much smaller than they are now. Selling higher priced British chickens & fruit etc, to people who want and can afford them, whilst the majority of these things will be imported because its cheaper.
 
Smokeandsteam said:
The boss of co-op has today called for a relaxation of visa rules to help fill the 100,000 HGV job vacancies

Tom Bradshaw, the Vice President, of the National Farmers Union has pointed out that ‘there is only one pool of labour’ and that tempting back the 13,600 EU drivers and meat processors should help fix the problem.

A simple question for continuity remain: do you agree with Steve and Tom?
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what do your mean by continuity remain? It’s a diss i presume…
 
Smokeandsteam said:
Yeah, I don’t think it was the Tories who undermined Corbyn, destroyed Labour’s momentum in the polls and split Labour with a poisonous second referendum campaign though was it..
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Was it totally unpredictable that a large segment of Labour voters would do dumb shit like wrapping themselves in the EU flag and demanding a referendum rerun instead of accepting the result?
 
bimble said:
It depends if you mean right now, this week, or in the future.
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It a simple question: do you support Nick, Steve and Tom?

We’ve had endless posts here from you and others about milkshake shortages, empty shelves, the crisis facing shoppers trying to feed their families etc caused by Brexit.

Now, the industry leaders themselves have devised a plan to address these issues. Does continuity remain support it or not?
 
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Smokeandsteam said:
It a simple question: do you support Nick, Steve and Tom?

We’ve had endless posts here from you and others about milkshake shortages, empty shelves, the crisis facing shoppers trying to feed their families etc caused by Brexit.

Now, finally the industry has devised a plan to address these issues. Does continuity remain support it or not?
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I think continuity remain have been subsumed into real remain
 
Smokeandsteam said:
It a simple question: do you support Nick, Steve and Tom?

We’ve had endless posts here from you and others about milkshake shortages, empty shelves, the crisis facing shoppers trying to feed their families etc caused by Brexit.

Now, the industry leaders themselves have devised a plan to address these issues. Does continuity remain support it or not?
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I am just an individual but think Brexit has been a pile of shite. It might have benefited hedge fund managers who will strip the UK. Morrisons is going but fuck it all the UK does not matter. After all we is all going to die so why worry about it?
 
I don't know about the economics of degrowth, but this looks like a great opportunity to move in that direction...
Embrace the degrowth - fuck business!
Less trucks is less pollution
Less investment is less consumer crap
Theres so much we can live without, or with less of
For me a collapse in the "meat industry" is one of the positives of Brexit.

Of course this will hit incomes for many, but a transition economy is always going to be painful.. continuous growth is more painful
 
ska invita said:
I don't know about the economics of degrowth, but this looks like a great opportunity to move in that direction...
Embrace the degrowth - fuck business!
Less trucks is less pollution
Less investment is less consumer crap
Theres so much we can live without, or with less of
For me a collapse in the "meat industry" is one of the positives of Brexit.

Of course this will hit incomes for many, but a transition economy is always going to be painful.. continuous growth is more painful
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Fuck degrowth. Let's have a vocabulary for a new mode of production which isn't taken from the pustulent corpse of capitalist economics
 
Why do 'continuity' remain or the 'loyalist' brexiteers think that neoliberal exploitation of labour will alter as a result of supra-state membership status?
 
MrSki said:
I am just an individual but think Brexit has been a pile of shite. It might have benefited hedge fund managers who will strip the UK. Morrisons is going but fuck it all the UK does not matter. After all we is all going to die so why worry about it?
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Do you support the calls raised by Nick, Steve and Tom to solve the Brexit food shortages? We’ve had pages of evidence here of the extent of the problem and the unprecedented hardships ordinary people are enduring - much of it from you. Here is a solution. Do you support it?
 
Smokeandsteam said:
Do you support the calls raised by Nick, Steve and Tom to solve the Brexit food shortages? We’ve had pages of evidence here of the extent of the problem and the unprecedented hardships ordinary people are enduring - much of it from you. Here is a solution. Do you support it?
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You claim to be batting for the working class but if I agreed with you then we would both be wrong. It is all a load of bollocks & really is Turkeys voting for christmas. In a few years there will be a book you can read all about it.
I am passed caring and will be away for a couple of days but lots of loveXxx
 
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